Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Lemme ask u... Did Anointed One from League of Ancients beat Clark to death? Just curious..
Can't really tell since we see little actual on-panel fighting, and the fight ends in a way that doesn't apply to the topic, even if there wasn't something other than pure force involved.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
👆Other examples...
Konvict merked him with one punch. He was stunned/flash ko'd for a few moments lying on the ground with his eyes closed.
Male Cheetah overpowered him and made him pass out Iirc..
The answer to the question is AO and Konvict at a minimum and these fanboy made excuses are as worthless as the time spent dreaming them up. They've created a little see no evil hear no evil speak no evil pocket universe for themselves. Must be nice and cozy in there.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Can't really tell since we see little actual on-panel fighting, and the fight ends in a way that doesn't apply to the topic, even if there wasn't something other than pure force involved.
I wonder do you think all AO did was "mouth blast" him to death?
Do you at least acknowledge that he offed boy blue?
Also not sure why you can't see their fight applying to the topic at hand.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The answer to the question is AO and Konvict at a minimum and these fanboy made excuses are as worthless as the time spent dreaming them up. They've created a little see no evil hear no evil speak no evil pocket universe for themselves. Must be nice and cozy in there.
Just curious, are you going to concede to your error on your response to me bringing-up Mongul training Superman? Here's it in more depth to cure you of your ignorance to it.
Originally posted by Delta1938
There was some actual Martial Arts skills given(statements and a showing) and we saw Mongul was teaching Superman to better fight with his powers, but that's not what I was referring to.I had mentioned it, but not gone into detail, earlier with BAV. That Mongul's training was primarily about increasing Superman's powers because of the mental blocks.
Mongul talks about Superman holding back, also stating, "you quell your rage!!"
Telling Superman to use his anger.
Superman felt his powers surge.
Mongul tells him to use his telescopic vision to confirm Warworld was destroyed. Superman says he can't look that far with Earth's atmosphere blocking it. Mongul says he can, he chooses not to.
Lois narrates about Clark has talked about his concerns on his limits and weaknesses. And now the worry is about the opposite.
Lois states Mongul's training is to make Superman "more super."
Clark talks about how he always instinctively holds back, and since his powers developed, the only time he ever didn't hold back was against Doomsday.
So, Superman's mind literally limited him, not just he doesn't hit as hard as he could. His mind suppresses his powers. Mongul's training was meant to get around that.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
So u can't tell even though Anointed One is the resident powerhouse of the Ancients and other than the thing from his mouth(which seemed ineffectual if I may add), he doesn't really have any other esoteric abilities? Even though we see the fight seemingly ended in a divebomb? Interesting...I wonder do you think all AO did was "mouth blast" him to death?
Do you at least acknowledge that he offed boy blue?
Also not sure why you can't see their fight applying to the topic at hand.
We don't really see much of them hitting each other, and the fight ends with them slamming to the ground. Even if you're not assuming he beat him in the air and then they both slammed into the ground for shits and giggles, the fight being ended by the divebomb invalidates it from this.
Looks like it.
Originally posted by Delta1938
We don't really see much of them hitting each other, and the fight ends with them slamming to the ground. Even if you're not assuming he beat him in the air and then they both slammed into the ground for shits and giggles, the fight being ended by the divebomb invalidates it from this.Looks like it.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
How does a divebomb (physical act) invalidate the scene from this topic? Doesn't this showing vs AO help paint a picture of what closely matched opponents can possibly do to Clark when the question of strength, durability, and skill are involved? I think it's perfectly valid.
Originally posted by carver9
No range attacks or Mjlonir. No flying. This is a punch and kick fight.
I don't think a divebomb qualifies as punch/kick.
Originally posted by Delta1938
I don't think a divebomb qualifies as punch/kick.
And even then didn't his battle with AO at least include strength, durability, and fighting skill?
Originally posted by Delta1938
Just curious, are you going to concede to your error on your response to me bringing-up Mongul training Superman? Here's it in more depth to cure you of your ignorance to it.
There isn't anything to address. I said he fights the same before and after the training, mostly idiotic. Hiw about you address that.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err.. U serious? Ure gonna nitpick using the op's use of words to describe a fight that does not allow weapons or esoteric abilities to justify your stance? You think in a physical confrontation against two super powered individuals that there will be zero chances for leaps, bull rushes, charges, jumps, and the like? Maybe even grappling? Even I don't think the op meant it's going to be literally just "punch and kick".And even then didn't his battle with AO at least include strength, durability, and fighting skill?
Considering the topic is for a H2H fight, and we don't actually see much fighting(presumably it's all off-panel) and the fight ends with them being divebombs to the ground, which isn't AO punching or kicking or elbowing or kneeing, I have a hard time seeing how this isn't disqualified. We don't know how much actual fighting there was, we don't know how much the divebomb played a role. It's not nitpicking.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
There isn't anything to address. I said he fights the same before and after the training, mostly idiotic. Hiw about you address that.
Either you're failing to see the point, or you're ignoring it to keep from admitting your error. Neither is reflects well on you. But keep on bandwagon riding and leeching off others.
Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Err.. U serious? Ure gonna nitpick using the op's use of words to describe a fight that does not allow weapons or esoteric abilities to justify your stance? You think in a physical confrontation against two super powered individuals that there will be zero chances for leaps, bull rushes, charges, jumps, and the like? Maybe even grappling? Even I don't think the op meant it's going to be literally just "punch and kick".And even then didn't his battle with AO at least include strength, durability, and fighting skill?
The fanboy rulebook says no divebombs. It comes right before "dropkicks" and right after "DDT's."
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
😆 😆 😆Desperate times in New Krypton. Scratch Sentry KOing Blue Marvel, he used the exotic attack known as the God Divebomb! 😱
Missed this one.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
The fanboy rulebook says no divebombs. It comes right before "dropkicks" and right after "DDT's."
You really are this stupid. It's not an act.
Originally posted by Delta1938
Either you're failing to see the point, or you're ignoring it to keep from admitting your error. Neither is reflects well on you. But keep on bandwagon riding and leeching off others.
Lol, I made no error. Say it another 50 times and it still isn't true. You can't even state what the supposed error was because you'd be easily disproven. Everything I said is right in this thread, or did you somehiw not account for that?
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Lol, I made no error. Say it another 50 times and it still isn't true. You can't even state what the supposed error was because you'd be easily disproven. Everything I said is right in this thread, or did you somehiw not account for that?
Considering I was referring to Mongul's training as a power-up, not improving hand-to-hand skill, yes, yes you did make an error.
Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
Wahhhhh!!!! 😛. You are just mad because you and your brothers in Kal got smoked in this debate. Superman has been beaten (to death in fact), deal with it.
We got smoked? How about we do a battlezone of it after the one I'm a judge for is over(they have 3 posts left between them, so it should be soon). It'll be just you and I with a handful who are supposed to be impartial. Nobody else for you to cheerlead or leech off their arguments. Loser gets banned for a month. You up for it, you debate stud you?
Originally posted by Delta1938
Considering I was referring to Mongul's training as a power-up, not improving hand-to-hand skill, yes, yes you did make an error.We got smoked? How about we do a battlezone of it after the one I'm a judge for is over(they have 3 posts left between them, so it should be soon). It'll be just you and I with a handful who are supposed to be impartial. Nobody else for you to cheerlead or leech off their arguments. Loser gets banned for a month. You up for it, you debate stud you?
**** no I'm not doing that stupid shit. Never have, likely never will. Now go ahead and beat your bird chest like you won something while I 😂
