Orange Order stands by grand master comments: Homosexuality is wrong

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The Orange Order has backed Fermanagh County Grand Master Stuart Brooker after he said gay people could not join the organisation because "homosexuality is wrong".

Speaking in an interview with The Impartial Reporter, Mr Brooker said any member that was gay would likely have to leave the organisation.

He was speaking following the publication of a good relations audit by the County Fermanagh Grand Lodge aimed at building community relations and awareness of the work of the organisation.

Asked for the Orange Order’s view on homosexuality, Mr Brooker told The Impartial Reporter: “We’re a Christian organisation and therefore we believe in what the Bible teaches.

"The Bible teaches that homosexuality is wrong.

"That doesn’t mean we are anti-homosexuals, LGBT people or that we hate people. I personally don’t agree, I believe homosexuality is wrong because the Bible teaches me it is wrong.”

Mr Brooker said the organisation had never had to deal with a gay person trying to join, however, he said the rules and regulations would not allow it.

We all pretty much know that the Orange Order are a filthy far-right organisation, but the purpose of this is to show that once again, the Christian Right are a bunch of liars who should not be trusted. For the last few months during the build up of their sectarian parades they have been defending their views of the organisation stating that it "embraces culture and respectful heritage".

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You ignorant race-baiting baby-killing lefties are such angels though, right? LMAO.

Originally posted by Ayelewis
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We all pretty much know that the Orange Order are a filthy far-right organisation, but the purpose of this is to show that once again, the Christian Right are a bunch of liars who should not be trusted. For the last few months during the build up of their sectarian parades they have been defending their views of the organisation stating that it "embraces culture and respectful heritage".

Being shocked over a conservative Christian group not allowing homosexuals is like being shocked over the KKK not allowing black people.

Yup. A Christian group follows its tenets. What are people expecting exactly?

For them to change their tenets to something less haterful.

"Less hateful". LMAO. What ignorance. I'm sure you think everything that goes against what you believe is "hateful". You think Christians are allowed to just say "**** you, God. We believe you are wrong on everything you say about homosexuality so we will make up our own rules and ignore everything you say and we expect to still be rewarded from you when we die." 🙄

You know what, **** you and everybody else who continually bashes Christians. You're no ****ing better that's for sure. Done listening to know-it-all atheists pathetically trying to act like they are morally superior when it's obviously the other way around.

Originally posted by Bardock42
For them to change their tenets to something less haterful.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Calling the Christian right a bunch of liars based on one instance is idiotic. Further, calling the far right organization filthy shows exactly where your bias lies and the entire point of this post.

Nope, there is no bias here, you can attack Holocaust deniers for their crazy views but still have the right to call them Anti-Semites.

I can call the Christian Right a bunch of liars who can't be trusted because it is true, there are numerous examples. such as Creationists, the pro-lifers, the homophobic pastors etc. These are people who willfully ignore facts and evidence for their own agenda.

Also take a look at the violence spewed by Christian Conservative groups in the past.

The hatred against abortion providers has been accompanied by a campaign of hatred instigated mainly by the RC Church. Look at Lifesite news and similar sources to see their chatter about babycide, abortoreums and their constant hostility towards Planned Parenthood. All that propaganda pays off and sooner or later there's somebody who's willing to protect Baby Jesus by torching a family planning entity.

To be fair, I did not think it a reasonable suggestion in the sense that it's not going to happen. It's not suggesting ignoring the bible either, it's interpreting it in a manner in line with modern society (as all bible based faiths do anyways). I do think that the dislike for gays (as opposed to the lack of dislike for shrimp, condemned in the same passages) stems from bigotry and hatred however.

Citing a few examples and calling it true is ignorant. Thats like me saying the left are a bunch of filthy liars by citing examples. You're generalizing and it shows bias. The rest of your post is filled with baseless nonsense based on emotions and now prejudice against the religious.

Bardock, I don't disagree with you that some religious groups dislike homosexuals but you immediately resort to hate and bigotry when exclusivity is involved and that's pretty intellectually dishonest.

Originally posted by Star428
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You ignorant race-baiting baby-killing lefties are such angels though, right? LMAO.

I don't see how standing up to fascistic scum such as your friends in the Pro-Life community who attack clinics, and perpetrate the killing of real human beings constitutes as being wrong.

Originally posted by Ayelewis
I don't see how standing up to fascistic scum such as your friends in the Pro-Life community who attack clinics, and perpetrate the killing of [b]real human beings constitutes as being wrong. [/B]

Fetuses must be somehow "fake" humans.

Must be made in China.

I suppose there is an option of following something either through obliviousness or fear of speaking up, but the base for the dislike is still the hatred and bigotry, imo. Or do you see other reasons for exclusion of gay people that do not ultimately boil down to that?

Originally posted by Bardock42
I suppose there is an option of following something either through obliviousness or fear of speaking up, but the base for the dislike is still the hatred and bigotry, imo. Or do you see other reasons for exclusion of gay people that do not ultimately boil down to that?

Kid makes tree fort.

"No girls allowed"

"Mysoginistic bastards!"

Originally posted by psmith81992
You mean like religuous beliefs? That has zero to do with bigotry and hatred.

I think for many followers it has a lot to do with bigotry and hatred, for others it has to do with ignorance and a deferring to what they are taught and for some it's fear of community backlash. But there are no good reasons, imo, for that behaviour.

I don't believe in following shitty orders (as a German and an Atheist).

You're wrong. And they may be shitty orders because you don't understand them and since youre already an atheist, it doesn't help your point.

Originally posted by psmith81992
Ok so you've confirmed your bias, ignorance and generalizations by representing the "scumbag left"?

It's always been clear to me that people like you and Star, are the type of religious scum who defend the actions of bigots and crazy fascists.

It's always been crystal clear to me that the prolifers are a bunch of well-financed terrorists. There was Operation Rescue in the 1990s. Three abortion doctors in Pensacola were murdered, one by Presbyterian minister Paul Hill. The State of Florida executed this religious fanatic but a local Alabama RC priest called for Hill's release.

It's been crystal clear to everybody that there's been a concerted attack on PP by religious scum like yourself who support such tactics. Trying to divert attention by claiming that maybe somebody else did the deed is just your feeble attempt to escape responsibility.

Don't presume to give me orders, murderous pig.