Black Crime vs Illegal Immigrate Crime

The problem with illegal immigration is it creates a poor class. And widens the gap between the middle and rich classes. We need to bridge the gap in income inequality.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The problem with illegal immigration is it creates a poor class.

Well that and the small amount of extra rapists and murderers it lets into the country.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The problem with illegal immigration is it creates a poor class. And widens the gap between the middle and rich classes. We need to bridge the gap in income inequality.

Originally posted by Mindset
How are immigrants widening the gap between the middle and rich class?

by making fewer middle class and more poor class.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]by making fewer middle class and more poor class. [/B]

How does the increase of poor widen the gap between the middle class and rich?

Originally posted by Mindset
How are immigrants widening the gap between the middle and rich class?

By taking away jobs for the poor class already here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
By taking away jobs for the poor class already here.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Why do illegal immigrants get a get out of jail free card, but blacks go to jail for petty things? And they get the three strike your out rule. Illegals get unlimited chances now.

Seems unfair.

I'm not too sure that I want to follow this generalized frame of thought. But, if I were to place an opinion on your question, the first thing that comes to mind would be the gangs that commit petty thefts to outright murder vs organized criminals that are harder to catch. Task forces have been put in place in ghetto neighborhoods, and have been a large factor for most inmates being African American, and Hispanic. I guess that what I'm getting at, is the sophistication surrounding certain crimes versus the simplistic crimes that can be seen from a mile away. Organized crime can take years of undercover stakeouts among other things to crack, while the weed man hanging out on the corner as I stated, can be seen from miles away.

In the countries that have a large influx of illegal aliens crossing their boarders, it is often due to organized crime lords too well hidden to ever be caught. Africans are placed on boats after paying undisclosed sums of money, and tugged to a certain point only to be cut loose well ahead of reaching the European shoreline. These boats/ships have no motor or means of steering these people to shore, and they drift aimlessly for weeks until either finally reaching shore (dead or alive) or, they are intercepted and brought to shore by the authorities.

Using the heading Black Crime vs Illegal Immigrant Crime is all kinds of wrong, but I get what you are trying to say. The answer is that organized criminals will always be more difficult to get under control due to the sophistication behind them. While petty criminals are the ones that we always see on the news because these criminals are often the ones that use simplistic methods to commit their crimes.

The more jobs companies can shell out to illegals drives down wages. But its really the High Corp Taxes that drives these jobs out of the country.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]The more jobs companies can shell out to illegals drives down wages. But its really the High Corp Taxes that drives these jobs out of the country. [/B]

Originally posted by Mindset
What does that have to do with the middle class?

The middle class are who is taxed the most to make up the difference between the rich who are largely untaxed and the poor who are not taxed.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The middle class are who is taxed the most to make up the difference between the rich who are largely untaxed and the poor who are not taxed.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
The problem with illegal immigration is it creates a poor class. And widens the gap between the middle and rich classes. We need to bridge the gap in income inequality.

****ing socialist.

But many illegals do jobs that people here wouldn't do even given the chance. Or would straight up refuse because the pay would be less than they would accept.

Originally posted by Mindset
But illegals aren't causing the wage gap, it's large businesses and their owners that are.

It takes two too tango.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think the "you can't keep them out" came as a counter-point to people whose only policy for immigration is "build a wall and keep them all out". Basically it's a reality check. Illegal Immigration is happening and pretending you can make it go away is silly.

Additionally, the United States still vastly benefits from immigration (both legal and illegal), in particular illegal immigration provides a large pool of very cheap labor that the country benefits from. This is on top of immigrants paying in more to the system than they receive.

Originally posted by Flyattractor
[b]It takes two too tango. [/B]

America doesn't have an immigration problem to compare with what's going on in Europe right now. In comparison we're pretty fortunate and doing a damn good job of keeping the situation under control.

Originally posted by Omega Vision
America doesn't have an immigration problem to compare with what's going on in Europe right now. In comparison we're pretty fortunate and doing a damn good job of keeping the situation under control.

Yep. if you were to go on vacation to Italy the first thing that you would notice in certain areas is a strong whiff of shit that many illegal aliens leave in their wake.

Originally posted by Stoic
Yep. if you were to go on vacation to Italy the first thing that you would notice in certain areas is a strong whiff of shit that many illegal aliens leave in their wake.