Black Crime vs Illegal Immigrate Crime

Originally posted by Omega Vision
America doesn't have an immigration problem to compare with what's going on in Europe right now. In comparison we're pretty fortunate and doing a damn good job of keeping the situation under control.

maybe europe has it worse. and if so, so what?

we don't compare our standard of living to that of haiti when rating the american economic system... so why on earth would the fact that europe has a bigger immigration problem than us be of any relevance to the question of american immigration policy.

My point is that opponents of immigration tend to overstate the problem.

oh. i can agree with that

i'd add that the left likes to conveniently ignore the problems that mass immigration can introduce... and that they gloat so much about the shifting demographics and the resulting impending political implications that its hard not to believe they are basically using the refugees of the world as a political resource

Originally posted by Omega Vision
America doesn't have an immigration problem to compare with what's going on in Europe right now. In comparison we're pretty fortunate and doing a damn good job of keeping the situation under control.

No. No you're not.

Originally posted by red g jacks
alright.. im gonna be straight up with you and say that basically i hear the left making statements such as what you've just said, then i hear the right say the exact opposite. if i was sober and diligent enough to track this issue down i might discover the truth for myself. but i'm simply not. so maybe if you have reputable evidence that mass immigration benefits the united states i'd be very interested in seeing it. if you could be specific and cite sources, i might actually just decide to make up my mind and side with you. the choice is yours.

http://money.cnn.com/2014/11/20/news/economy/immigration-myths/

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/04/16/Study-Finds-Illegal-Immigrants-Pay-118B-Taxes

https://www.aclu.org/immigration-myths-and-facts

http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2015/06/23/Undocumented-immigrants-pay-more-to-Medicare-than-they-withdraw/2961435082706/

I know that particular in the partisan media in the United States it is hard to find out what the truth is, adding to that the inane believe by otherwise neutral media that to be objective they have to give all sides of an argument equal time, rather than telling us what is actually true based on sources. But, you should really do some research to form an informed opinion, hopefully you can start off with the links I gave and follow through to the studies.

Why isn't this locked yet??

Mexico warns US about birth right citizenship.

http://houston.suntimes.com/hou-news/7/76/178536/mexico-warns-texas-refuse-birth-certificates-babies-immigrants/

How about we talk about the Mexican constitution.

Their constitution says if a Mexican is born in U.S. They are still subject to Mexican jurisdiction and are Mexican citizens.

Look up article 30 of Mexican Constitution.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Mexico warns US about birth right citizenship.

http://houston.suntimes.com/hou-news/7/76/178536/mexico-warns-texas-refuse-birth-certificates-babies-immigrants/

How about we talk about the Mexican constitution.

Their constitution says if a Mexican is born in U.S. They are still subject to Mexican jurisdiction and are Mexican citizens.

Look up article 30 of Mexican Constitution.

The US and Mexico have an extradition treaty so I think things will be okay. Meaning, if they do something illegal in Mexico and come back to the US, Mexico can petition the US to ship them to Mexico.

This is even for "anchor babies." Or people who were born in the US to illegal immigrants (suck it, bardock).

Originally posted by KingD19
But many illegals do jobs that people here wouldn't do even given the chance. Or would straight up refuse because the pay would be less than they would accept.

It's not about that people won't do the jobs, it is just...as you said, they want to be paid a fair wage. You act like it is a bad thing for a legal citizen of this country to want to earn a decent wage. People in this country who are here legally do all kinds of shitty jobs..so whenever people suggest this as if people in this country are against menial labor, etc. it's just not true. It's because the illegals work for shit pay and thus businesses then refuse to pair a fair wage and just hire more illegals.

So you can tell when things have gotten out of hand when we're acting like the illegals are coming in and saving us from ourselves by doing the jobs no legal Americans would dare to do.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The US and Mexico have an extradition treaty so I think things will be okay. Meaning, if they do something illegal in Mexico and come back to the US, Mexico can petition the US to ship them to Mexico.

This is even for "anchor babies." Or people who were born in the US to illegal immigrants (suck it, bardock).

Is the suck it referencing my decision not to use these two terms? Cause I have no problem with extradition generally.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The US and Mexico have an extradition treaty so I think things will be okay. Meaning, if they do something illegal in Mexico and come back to the US, Mexico can petition the US to ship them to Mexico.

This is even for "anchor babies." Or people who were born in the US to illegal immigrants (suck it, bardock).

Now if only they'd petition the US to ship them back all the people who come here from Mexico and break the law.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Is the suck it referencing my decision not to use these two terms? Cause I have no problem with extradition generally.

No, the suck it reference was because I'm very horny and I was making a side comment for you.

Originally posted by Surtur
Now if only they'd petition the US to ship them back all the people who come here from Mexico and break the law.

How would they know about the existence of any of the anchor babies?

I don't know, but whenever I hear that phrase I just think of someone throwing a baby with a chain attached to it into the ocean from the deck of a boat.

Originally posted by Surtur
I don't know, but whenever I hear that phrase I just think of someone throwing a baby with a chain attached to it into the ocean from the deck of a boat.

Originally posted by dadudemon
The US and Mexico have an extradition treaty so I think things will be okay. Meaning, if they do something illegal in Mexico and come back to the US, Mexico can petition the US to ship them to Mexico.

This is even for "anchor babies." Or people who were born in the US to illegal immigrants (suck it, bardock).

Thing is, US does not technically allow dual citizenship anymore.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Mexico warns US about birth right citizenship.

http://houston.suntimes.com/hou-news/7/76/178536/mexico-warns-texas-refuse-birth-certificates-babies-immigrants/

How about we talk about the Mexican constitution.

Their constitution says if a Mexican is born in U.S. They are still subject to Mexican jurisdiction and are Mexican citizens.

Look up article 30 of Mexican Constitution.

So the Mexican Constitution supersedes the US Constitution when pertaining to Americans now?

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Thing is, US does not technically allow dual citizenship anymore.

That's just not true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
That's just not true.

Bullshit, since when did we allow Mexicans to come over here and be American citizens and then they are also allowed to be Mexican Citizens as well?

Are you being stupid on purpose?

Originally posted by Robtard
So the Mexican Constitution supersedes the US Constitution when pertaining to Americans now?

Strawman, try again.