Superman(Reeves) vs MCU, DCCU, Arrowverse, XMCU, Star Wars and Hancock

Started by StealthRanger20 pages

Guy who lifted a small country won't be hurt by a truck

Not to mention the moon moving.

So, no clips of him attacking people before they can think?

Guys, MCU and everyone else is given a week of prep. I'm talking Reed Richards, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Prof X, Dr Doom, everyone.

Not to mention the DCCU would have access to Kryptonite, wouldn't they?

Massive stomp, I mean masssive stomp..... I mean wow.

Edit. I mean, how's he even going to hurt the Surfer? The guy can just stay phased the whole time and just shove a kryptonite rock up his super panties.

Reeve Superman is powerful but he gets stomped in this thread. The combined teams have so much power variety that they cannot be beaten by simply being superfast and superstrong.

Originally posted by playa1258
Not to mention the moon moving.

Huh, didn't know about that one, then again, only ever saw the first movie and Superman Returns, though you'd be looking at several zettatons of energy at the very least, dependent on how fast he moved it

Originally posted by Silent Master
Provide clips of him attacking people before they can think.
I could ask you to provide clips of Hancock shoving a truck through someone's skull, which you never disputed and backed up. But then you're an idiot, so you wouldn't see the hypocrisy between denying one stance and supporting the other, lol.

I don't need to prove Superman can move fast. It's well-documented. 👆

Let me cut in before you make your obvious response with your very simple brain:

"So you can't actually show me him attacking people before they can think?"

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Guys, MCU and everyone else is given a week of prep. I'm talking Reed Richards, Silver Surfer, Galactus, Prof X, Dr Doom, everyone.

Not to mention the DCCU would have access to Kryptonite, wouldn't they?

Massive stomp, I mean masssive stomp..... I mean wow.

Edit. I mean, how's he even going to hurt the Surfer? The guy can just stay phased the whole time and just shove a kryptonite rock up his super panties.

The Fantastic Four shit isn't a part of the MCU

Originally posted by NemeBro
I could ask you to provide clips of Hancock shoving a truck through someone's skull, which you never disputed and backed up. But then you're an idiot, so you wouldn't see the hypocrisy between denying one stance and supporting the other, lol.

I don't need to prove Superman can move fast. It's well-documented. 👆

Let me cut in before you make your obvious response with your very simple brain:

"So you can't actually show me him attacking people before they can think?"

As I never claimed that Hancock would do so, you would be better served asking the person that actually made that claim for proof.

I can however post multiple clips of Superman's fights that clearly show his fighting speed to be rather slow.

A few thoughts on Superman turning back time:

1. That was a flight speed feat not a combative speed feat. Unless Superman can turn back time everyime he moves.

2. It took him multiple rotations around the world to turn back time which seems to suggest that he had to work up to his final velocity, meaning he isn't always that fast. In comparison, Arrowverse Flash was able to go back in time by simply running back and forth a few miles.

Originally posted by NemeBro
Why would someone thousands of times weaker than him be able to physically harm him?

Because people have done it before? Supes has been harmed by humans and missiles.

Originally posted by NemeBro
The Fantastic Four shit isn't a part of the MCU

Pardon me. I sometimes forget the MCU separation with other franchises.

Kitty+Prof X mind stop then.

How imba is Reeves Superman?

Can he push the Earth into the Sun for example?

He could prolly push the moon there if he wanted to

Originally posted by FrothByte
Reeve Superman is powerful but he gets stomped in this thread.

LOL. Reeve's Superman never "gets stomped" by anyone or any team. If anyone is doing any "stomping" here it's Supes. Hell, just about the entire team he's facing here could easily be oneshotted by him before they could do anything. The only real threat to him is Professor X and we don't even know if X's telepathy/mind control will work on him because we've never seen him try it on a kryptonian. Kryptonians aren't human. Humans are a primitive race compared to them. Common sense would suggest they have stronger minds and therefore greater resistance to being MC'ed. Clark has shown mind powers of his own when he gave Lois that kiss at end of Superman 2 which made her forget what Clark wanted her to. So obviously his mind is much stronger than anything X has faced before.

So even though Superman has zero feats of tp resistance, you're just going to grant him immunity?

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Reeve's Superman never "gets stomped" by anyone or any team. If anyone is doing any "stomping" here it's Supes. Hell, just about the entire team he's facing here could easily be oneshotted by him before they could do anything. The only real threat to him is Professor X and we don't even know if X's telepathy/mind control will work on him because we've never seen him try it on a kryptonian. Kryptonians aren't human. Humans are a primitive race compared to them. Common sense would suggest they have stronger minds and therefore greater resistance to being MC'ed. Clark has shown mind powers of his own when he gave Lois that kiss at end of Superman 2 which made her forget what Clark wanted her to. So obviously his mind is much stronger than anything X has faced before.

Yesh sure. Superman's intellect is so advanced that he keeps getting outsmarted by lex Luthor who's a normal, non-powered human.

Don't forget that Phoenix is also part of the Xmen team, so is Emma Frost.

Then you have cosmic beings like Thanos, Maelkith w/ aether, Odin, The Collector, Ronan w/ gem, etc and we have no idea how they will affect Superman.

Superman gets stomped.

Originally posted by NemeBro
I could ask you to provide clips of Hancock shoving a truck through someone's skull, which you never disputed and backed up. But then you're an idiot, so you wouldn't see the hypocrisy between denying one stance and supporting the other, lol.

I don't need to prove Superman can move fast. It's well-documented. 👆

Let me cut in before you make your obvious response with your very simple brain:

"So you can't actually show me him attacking people before they can think?"

I love it when people try to use the "combat speed" argument on characters they're arguing against, yet when you use their set of 'logic' against them, they don't bother to quantify their own character's "combat speed" at all, they just spout "lawl speed lines, blurs and afterimages ftw!"

Anyways, the TP users are massive glass cannons with no speed feats, Superman can just vaporize them with the air pressure of his lazy arm movements

1. That was a flight speed feat not a combative speed feat. Unless Superman can turn back time everyime he moves.

Same reason DBZ characters don't bust planets in every single fight they're in even though they tend to fight all out alot on planets, or why Gold Saints are universe busters even though their fights don't even destroy the country they're on, and list goes on throughout fiction

Welcome to fiction bruvva

2. It took him multiple rotations around the world to turn back time which seems to suggest that he had to work up to his final velocity, meaning he isn't always that fast. In comparison, Arrowverse Flash was able to go back in time by simply running back and forth a few miles.

The fact he could anything rotate around the earth puts him orders of magnitude above every other character here in speed, that I'm aware of here anyways

Time travel is often treated as a different ability from FTL speed in fiction

Originally posted by Star428
LOL. Reeve's Superman never "gets stomped" by anyone or any team. If anyone is doing any "stomping" here it's Supes. Hell, just about the entire team he's facing here could easily be oneshotted by him before they could do anything. The only real threat to him is Professor X and we don't even know if X's telepathy/mind control will work on him because we've never seen him try it on a kryptonian. Kryptonians aren't human. Humans are a primitive race compared to them. Common sense would suggest they have stronger minds and therefore greater resistance to being MC'ed. Clark has shown mind powers of his own when he gave Lois that kiss at end of Superman 2 which made her forget what Clark wanted her to. So obviously his mind is much stronger than anything X has faced before.

Having a magical mindwiping kiss and being Kryptonian does not mean he possesses any telepathic resistance. Plus, you are forgetting about Emma and Phoenix, and the Mind Gem, which is a cosmic artifact (that is part of an even larger cosmic artifact) which predates humanity, so pretty sure it isn't limited to working on humans either.