Superman(Reeves) vs MCU, DCCU, Arrowverse, XMCU, Star Wars and Hancock

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Behold, Superman's massive fighting speed YouTube video

Originally posted by Silent Master
Behold, Superman's massive fighting speed YouTube video

Too bad that doesn't really prove anything since that movie was made at a time when special effects technology and/or the budget of movie didn't allow for super-speed fights between characters like the way Kryptonians fought in Man of Steel. There were several instances of Superman using super speed in the 4 movies but they usually had to be off camera because of the lower technology of effects and/or they wanted to save money. How in the Hell do you think Clark/Superman was able to go on a date with both Lois and Lacy in Superman 4 without massive superspeed? I'm sure you saw the part in original Superman when Lois first interviewed him at her place. After Superman left from interview it was just 2 or 3 seconds later that he was knocking on her door as Clark. How was Clark able to catch that bullet when he was with Lois and they were getting mugged if he didn't have superspeed? There's dozens of other instances too of him using superspeed both on and off camera but I don't care to list them all. Just watch the movies, FFS.

Face facts, there's probably a hundred different ways Reeve Superman would destroy this team.

Originally posted by Star428
Too bad that doesn't really prove anything.

It proves Superman's fighting speed and skill.

Originally posted by Star428

Face facts, there's probably a hundred different ways Reeve Superman would destroy this team.

You forget that the team has a week of prep.
Superman gets stomped here.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Behold, Superman's massive fighting speed YouTube video

Translation: I'll just nitpick any random scene that is not indicative of any kind of capability and try and use it to downplay my opposition

Eh, maybe if it was made with flashy blurs and afterimages

Can you point out where in this scene Superman shows massive fighting speed?

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"It looked slow so it mus be slow" is not a valid argument

You wanting them to be moving at superspeed isn't proof that they actually were. but if you are so sure that you're right, ask Imp for a Mod ruling.

This isn't CBR, mod rulings aren't (or at least shouldn't be) a thing

Meh, maybe if they were leaving flashy speed lines and afterimages, oh hang on, those are tropes

You're just mad that Superman wasn't shown to actually have superhuman fighting speed.

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Speed feats (Superman rotating around the earth Gotenks style) are indicative of a character's ability and unless we have reason to believe they were going much slower, we don't assume they are for no reason, you could pull that argument in any fictional universe, isn't Occam's Razor just fun?

Abusing the style over substance "argument" won't cut it regardless of how much you spout it ad nauseum, try again

Also plz never debate Saint Seiya or DBZ here, kthnx

Your fan wanking aside, we actually know how fast Superman can fight.

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So, you going to actually make an argument for once, or just stick your head in the sand and make snide passive aggressive remarks, as usual?

I have a clip showing Superman's fighting speed, all you have is wishful thinking.

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>blah blah nothing of substance here just style over substance abuse and stonewalling

Nice regurgitated bullshit, no real arguments or attempts to quantify it, just abuse of the style over substance bullshit because "screw actual feats they don't look that impressive to me so it's not", presenting absolutely no attempts at quantification or disproving of actual feats, so I'll ask again, do you even have a ****ing argument at all or are you just going to keep sticking your head in the sand, as all you're doing here is just stonewalling in the face of actual feats

Basically all you're doing is just sticking your head in the sand and going "nah nah dun look fast to me so it's not" and not providing any rebuttal or counterargument to anything me, NemeBro or Star provided, or even any basic quantification of feats, seriously, you could do this for any verse, and not just for speed

I have a clip from the actual movie that backs up my stance, all you have is wishful thinking.

Seriously though, if your main argument is basically nitpicking every single teensy tiny thing and claiming they don't look fast then that's just damn sad, as I said, you could pull that argument in any fictional universe that isn't the Suggsverse

Fact of the matter is that speed feats only happen a few times in most fictional universes in several forms, rest of it is common sense and assuming they're not going slower for no reason (Occam's Razor is your friend here)

I mean frankly, nobody's going to give a shit if x person's favorite DBZ character zipped around the planet several times in seconds yet when the saga's namesake villain steamrolls him they don't even zip across the city, yet it'd be laughable to claim they were going much slower for no reason

And if that's not a concept you've grasped by now, then what the hell you're doing in vs debating I'll never know

Originally posted by Silent Master
I have a clip from the actual movie that backs up my stance, all you have is wishful thinking.

>no attempts to quantify anything
>style over substance 'argument'
>expects to be taken seriously

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