Hey PR, what do you think about this video.
Hey PR, what do you think about this video.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Ideally background checks would be done, but if the information isn't obtainable, how would they check?A lot of people are coming from war-torn countries, where those kinds of records just wouldn't be available. Do you let nobody in because you want to go through rigorous psychological testing for every single one? Does Germany alone have enough people to do something like that while providing some sort of camp where they can keep them all separated from the general population?
So just out of curiosity if you had 50 strangers who wanted to come into your home, eat your food, use your stuff, etc. and you had no idea of the type of people they were...would you want to know the type of people they were before you let them into your house? Or would you just let them all in and hope for the best? Would you tell yourself that well I'm sure 99% of them aren't bad so I feel safe bringing them around my family?
I don't know if you indeed have a family, but IF you did...one could argue it'd be up to you to look out for them, right? All the normal citizens of Germany? Those people are Merkels family. Do you feel she looked out for her family?
A professor interrupted Merkel the a few days ago, and questioned her about her handling of the migration problem, and he fears for his younger children and what kind of country Germany is going to be.
Originally posted by Surtur
So just out of curiosity if you had 50 strangers who wanted to come into your home, eat your food, use your stuff, etc. and you had no idea of the type of people they were...would you want to know the type of people they were before you let them into your house? Or would you just let them all in and hope for the best? Would you tell yourself that well I'm sure 99% of them aren't bad so I feel safe bringing them around my family?I don't know if you indeed have a family, but IF you did...one could argue it'd be up to you to look out for them, right? All the normal citizens of Germany? Those people are Merkels family. Do you feel she looked out for her family?
Of course not, but I'm really not sure that comparison works.
A lot of these governments signed agreements years ago with the UN offering to take in refugees, the vast majority of which are, presumably, good people. Ireland is planning to take in 4,000. I'm not expecting every single one of them to be good, but I'd be willing to bet the majority of them will be.
Should good people be punished because of the actions of bad people? What's that old line about how you should let ten guilty men go free rather than put one innocent person in prison?
Genuinely asking, seeing as how we don't really see eye to eye: What would be your solution to the current situation?
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Lol I did no such thing, I said quit misrepresenting my argument.
Your pms were pretty hostile, man.
Originally posted by Stigma
@ Pr, you're Irish?You're supposed to be a jolly, conservative, ultra-Catholic drunk, not a mind-numbing liberal... What happened?
I'm neither of those, at least by the definitions of this board anyway.
Originally posted by -Pr-
Of course not, but I'm really not sure that comparison works.A lot of these governments signed agreements years ago with the UN offering to take in refugees, the vast majority of which are, presumably, good people. Ireland is planning to take in 4,000. I'm not expecting every single one of them to be good, but I'd be willing to bet the majority of them will be.
Should good people be punished because of the actions of bad people? What's that old line about how you should let ten guilty men go free rather than put one innocent person in prison?
Genuinely asking, seeing as how we don't really see eye to eye: What would be your solution to the current situation?
Good people shouldn't be punished for the actions of bad people and yet..good honest citizens shouldn't have to fear for their lives because a small but LOUD AS F*CK minority of savages think they are entitled to do whatever they want.
So you see the time for comparisons is indeed over. You can talk about the old line about ten guilty men, but I'd wonder if it was one of your loved ones stabbed or raped? I would venture to guess to THOSE people, yes, if keeping out the good also keeps out the bad it is worth it. Would those people, who have had loved ones murdered or raped, be wrong to feel that way?
Since you realize you might disagree with them until it's someone you know who suffers at the hands of these people.
Yeah I saw that, he now fears his job is in jeopardy. Sure he interrupted her during something that didn't involve anything about the migration issue. But when do the normal people get a chance to question her? My guess is not very much. Its suppose to be a free country for free speech and idea's. So much for that! smh. And the people there start clapping for her, when she says she will do everything she can to insure Germany has a bright future? How can they believe her? uhg
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
How about making safe zones in Syria and destroying ISIS instead of putting a band-aid on a hole in a leaky boat.
How? How would you do it that would make it better than what happened in places like Iraq, Afghanistan and Somalia?
Originally posted by Surtur
Good people shouldn't be punished for the actions of bad people and yet..good honest citizens shouldn't have to fear for their lives because a small but LOUD AS F*CK minority of savages think they are entitled to do whatever they want.So you see the time for comparisons is indeed over. You can talk about the old line about ten guilty men, but I'd wonder if it was one of your loved ones stabbed or raped? I would venture to guess to THOSE people, yes, if keeping out the good also keeps out the bad it is worth it. Would those people, who have had loved ones murdered or raped, be wrong to feel that way?
Since you realize you might disagree with them until it's someone you know who suffers at the hands of these people.
No, good people shouldn't have to fear for their lives. Neither should the refugees, though.
If it was someone I cared about, I would want to punish the people responsible. The people that hurt them. I wouldn't want to punish an entire ethnic group because of it. People in grief feel all kinds of things, including rage, but directing it towards an entire group of people, most of them likely innocent, is understandable albeit wrong.
Or should I hate every English person for what they did to my country? No, I shouldn't, and I don't.
You call it punishment I call it keeping people safe. All I know is if I was a mayor of a city or leader of an entire country..the people of my country would be the most important thing to me. It'd be unfortunate if I had to make a difficult choice such as "punish good people to protect those I am sworn to protect and serve" but it'd be a choice I'd make anyways.
Originally posted by kevdude
Yeah I saw that, he now fears his job is in jeopardy. Sure he interrupted her during something that didn't involve anything about the migration issue. But when do the normal people get a chance to question her? My guess is not very much. Its suppose to be a free country for free speech and idea's. So much for that! smh
Her actions show that Germany is not free, she cares little about her people, and favors criminals over law abiding citizens. She hates being questioned. If you watch all of her press time, he is a stuck up, elite supremacist who thinks she is all that is. She has doomed her people and the repercussions will last long after she is gone. She will most likely have a civil war on her hands in the near future, or Germans will leave Germany and she will be in charge of a migrant horde.