Originally posted by Stigma
And my take is that you won't tell anything constructive about it, because reailty shats on your liberal ideology.Migrants come to the country, and suddenly they constitute 96 percent of crime suspects. Nothing to raise an eyebrow, right?
You are repeating this lie even after I have pointed out to you where you went wrong.
Please though, tell me again how your political leanings value facts and honesty.
Originally posted by Raisen
it tells me that they have no respect for the german people. people who let them in to "save" them, and this many refugees rape their women.
statistically, is says a lot. it says they have no respect and no inclination to follow the rules. it says enough
Imagine if the radicals will be there for longer time... Judging by these stats they will commit a lot of crimes.
Originally posted by Bardock42
You are repeating this lie even after I have pointed out to you where you went wrong.Please though, tell me again how your political leanings value facts and honesty.
From the report:
Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said 73 suspects have been identified so far - most of them from North Africa. ...
"The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."...
The suspects included 30 Moroccan nationals, 27 Algerians, four Iraqis, three Germans, three Syrians, three Tunisians, and one each from Libya, Iran and Montenegro, Bremer said.
Originally posted by Stigma
WTF?From the report:
Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said [b]73 suspects have been identified so far - most of them from North Africa. ...
"The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."...
The suspects included 30 Moroccan nationals, 27 Algerians, four Iraqis, three Germans, three Syrians, three Tunisians, and one each from Libya, Iran and Montenegro, Bremer said. [/B]
Of one (admittedly large) incident.
If someone is robbed and says "the robber was a white male" then 100% of suspects will be white males. That does not mean that 100% of crimes are perpetrated by white males.
Do you even logic?
Cut out this nonsense of going around in circles. Stigma- Bardock is right; you (and others) misrepresented this at first. You've corrected yourself now, which is all well and good, but Bardock's original criticism was justified.
Just be more careful in future and move on.
Let's get back to vaguely constructive posts about this topic please.
Originally posted by Stigma
WTF?From the report:
Cologne prosecutor Ulrich Bremer said [b]73 suspects have been identified so far - most of them from North Africa. ...
"The overwhelming majority of persons fall into the general category of refugees," Bremer told The Associated Press, saying recent reports describing only three of the suspects as refugees were "total nonsense."...
The suspects included 30 Moroccan nationals, 27 Algerians, four Iraqis, three Germans, three Syrians, three Tunisians, and one each from Libya, Iran and Montenegro, Bremer said. [/B]
bardock is actually correct about this
Originally posted by Ushgarak
Cut out this nonsense of going around in circles. Stigma- Bardock is right; you (and others) misrepresented this at first. You;ve corrected yourself now, which is all well and good, but Bardock's original criticism was justified.
I see your point. Yes, I did use the "people who commited the crime" rather than "suspected of a crime," My bad. 👆
Besides that, I wouldn't consider Moroccans or Algerians refugees as their countries have been stable for years. They're from groups of immigrants that have been prevalent in Western European countries for decades, France and Belgium in particular. Most likely a lot of them will have German passports but are referred to as Moroccans or Algerians in this article. It happens all the time in Western countries. If a Dutchman of Moroccan descent is a successful footballer, he'll be called a Dutchman, when he's a criminal he'll be referred to as a Moroccan.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Of one (admittedly large) incident.If someone is robbed and says "the robber was a white male" then 100% of suspects will be white males. That does not mean that 100% of crimes are perpetrated by white males.
Do you even logic?
Still, out of this incident you have vast majority of suspects who just recently came to Germany. In other words, Germany unwittingly (or stupidly) welcomed potential criminals.
Is taking in more migrants going to be a good solution? Judging by this incident and the precedence it creates, I think not.
I honestly don't think he does. If Crime has risen that much in a certain time period given the increase in a foreign population added to the area, there can really only be one possible answer.
And secondly, he asked the same question to someone else and now he's complaining about being asked to him?
Originally posted by Robtard
So you still don't understand what the story was telling you?
Originally posted by Stigma
I see your point.Still, out of this incident you have vast majority of suspects who just recently came to Germany. In other words, Germany unwittingly (or stupidly) welcomed potential criminals.
Is taking in more migrants going to be a good solution? Judging by this incident and the precedence it creates, I think not.
Yes, among the over 1 million people there are 70 suspects (leaving asides Slay's very valid point.
Actually, let me rephrase that to make it more clear.
1000000 refugees
73 suspects
Actually, let me rephrase that and use single "I"s to represent the people
Refugees:
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Actually nevermind, you get the picture.
Actually, my response would be what TI just posted:
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
If Crime has risen that much in a certain time period given the increase in a foreign population added to the area, there can really only be one possible answer.
This is a very valid point and a grim prediction of what is yet to come, if the "welcome all" policy will be continued.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I honestly don't think he does. If Crime has risen that much in a certain time period given the increase in a foreign population added to the area, there can really only be one possible answer.And secondly, he asked the same question to someone else and now he's complaining about being asked to him?
Like I said, everyone should cut out the snide comments, though I would say that the comprehension issue he was referring to was rather more obvious.
Now you have explained the point you are trying to make and he can reply as he wishes.
Personally, though, I think you are on shaky ground connecting one (albeit very serious) incident to the general statement of 'crime has risen that much'😉,
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
I honestly don't think he does. If Crime has risen that much in a certain time period given the increase in a foreign population added to the area, there can really only be one possible answer.And secondly, he asked the same question to someone else and now he's complaining about being asked to him?
-Crime hasn't risen 96% in Cologne.
-The 96% of immigrants suspected is for one incident of crime.