Windu & Yoda vs Tyranus & Sidious

Started by Nibedicus31 pages

Originally posted by relentless1
I've got tons of evidence, youre just too biased to see it:

- palpatine lets anakin know he's a sith and allows him to tell the jedi

- palpatine kills 3 jedi before mace can even react properly

- palpatine has mace at sword point seconds into their fight and doesnt kill him

- palpatine is the one who broke the window in his office, the supposed catalyst for him losing focus

- mace kicks the lightsaber from palpatines hand the second before anakin walks into the room, making it appear as of mace is attacking a helpless old man

- palpatines use of lightning was meant to appear as defence against maces "assassination attempt" the dialogue before and during the lightning makes this clear

- finally he feigns total defeat until anakin chops off maces hand then springs back to life and kills mace

Yeah and jet fuel can't melt steel beams and the moon landing was fake.

So much theory. Zero evidence.

I won't even call it circumstantial evidence. It's not evidence at all. It's just attaching meanings to events to fit a narrative you've convinced yourself of.

Seriously.

Rather impartial I would say Nib.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Rather impartial I would say Nib.

Yes.Yes I am.

I would say this is a win for the Sith. Can't Sidious choke mace out judging by how he did Dooku.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I would say this is a win for the Sith. Can't Sidious choke mace out judging by how he did Dooku.

Well, as long as you don't try to change the narrative, you can think whatever you want to think. At that point, it's all opinion after all.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Well, as long as you don't try to change the narrative, you can think whatever you want to think. At that point, it's all opinion after all.

How do you feel about that, Sidious force choking Dooku.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
How do you feel about that, Sidious force choking Dooku.

Indifferent?

Elaborate friend

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Elaborate friend

Indifferent meaning "don't care" or not really something I'm concerned about.

Ok then

Dooku was stated to be better than Windu and Windu can't feed on the Dark Side of Dooku because he is a very calm fighter. Also Sidious never used his second sabre and people forget that it was an 4 vs 1. Sidious killed 3 Jedi Masters at the very beginning, which would increase the Dark Side and amp Windu. Sidious made the mistake not to kill Windu first and made him just stronger.

Yoda, at least going by the Books wasn't defeated by Sidious, he just retreated because even if he had killed Palpatine it wouldn't change much, he needed to find the right way again.

So i still think the Dark Side has the edge here.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Elaborate friend
You don't even know what that word means. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

Originally posted by relentless1
lots of factor play into that fight; the fact that they knew each other so well, that obi fights a fantastic defensive game, that anakin had become too angry and became sloppy. These are things that will affect a real fight and watching the story unfold they make sense here as well. Somebody said it before sometimes a different situation give you a different outcome in a fight
Your conjecture makes no sense. Quit ignoring the facts.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You don't even know what that word means. Hahahahahahahahahaha.

or i just wanted him to go into greater detail.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
or i just wanted him to go into greater detail.
No, he just defined the word. You didn't k ow what it meant because you're a stupid kid.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, he just defined the word. You didn't k ow what it meant because you're a stupid kid.

In the post he said indifferent I wanted him to go into greater detail on why he was indifferent.

Originally posted by Nibedicus
Indifferent?
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Indifferent meaning "don't care" or not really something I'm concerned about.
Originally posted by Nibedicus
Indifferent meaning "don't care" or not really something I'm concerned about.
He defined the word and you were ok with it.

You didn't know what the word meant. You're stupid.

Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Dooku was stated to be better than Windu and Windu can't feed on the Dark Side of Dooku because he is a very calm fighter. Also Sidious never used his second sabre and people forget that it was an 4 vs 1. Sidious killed 3 Jedi Masters at the very beginning, which would increase the Dark Side and amp Windu. Sidious made the mistake not to kill Windu first and made him just stronger.

Yoda, at least going by the Books wasn't defeated by Sidious, he just retreated because even if he had killed Palpatine it wouldn't change much, he needed to find the right way again.

So i still think the Dark Side has the edge here.

Books/novels aren't usable in the movie forums. When was Dooku mentioned as better than Mace in the movies?

Originally posted by relentless1
I've got tons of evidence, youre just too biased to see it:

- palpatine lets anakin know he's a sith and allows him to tell the jedi

- palpatine kills 3 jedi before mace can even react properly

- palpatine has mace at sword point seconds into their fight and doesnt kill him

- palpatine is the one who broke the window in his office, the supposed catalyst for him losing focus

- mace kicks the lightsaber from palpatines hand the second before anakin walks into the room, making it appear as of mace is attacking a helpless old man

- palpatines use of lightning was meant to appear as defence against maces "assassination attempt" the dialogue before and during the lightning makes this clear

- finally he feigns total defeat until anakin chops off maces hand then springs back to life and kills mace

I'm quite serious when I say this, NONE of what you posted is PROOF Sids threw the fight. That is literally conjecture on your part that these unrelated thing have anything to do with him throwing the fight.

Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
I'm quite serious when I say this, NONE of what you posted is PROOF Sids threw the fight. That is literally conjecture on your part that these unrelated thing have anything to do with him throwing the fight.

Well the last 2 points are pretty much facts:

Originally posted by relentless1

- palpatines use of lightning was meant to appear as defence against maces "assassination attempt" the dialogue before and during the lightning makes this clear

- finally he feigns total defeat until anakin chops off maces hand then springs back to life and kills mace