Originally posted by Nephthys
Lmao
None of these combatants are even close to Ventress tier. As for the other two, Warren Sedoru said numerous times he wasn't a fighter, and Leeha was picked for her knowledge of Stealth Tech. They're obviously decent fighters, but not actually the three best warriors in the order.
The nightsisters that went with Ventress were however the two best fighters in a clan of warriors feared throughout the galaxy for their strength.
Please, explain what part of my sentence is "lmao" worthy. Surely not that you think those two sisters are featless, since this is ****ing Leeha Narezz. Surely not that the accolades mean nothing unless backed up.... Because this is ****ing Warren Sedoru.
Or maybe you think Tol Braga > Ventress. In which case, the only response really is just:
Originally posted by Nephthys
Lmao
Originally posted by Selenial
None of these combatants are even close to Ventress tier. As for the other two, Warren Sedoru said numerous times he wasn't a fighter, and Leeha was picked for her knowledge of Stealth Tech.
Warren wasn't the fighter he used to be. But he used to be the greatest Jedi warrior of his time, so that still leaves room for him to be extremely potent. And Leeha was able to fight through the lions share of the defenses on Vitiate's fortress. Meaning masses of elite Sith and Imperial Guardsmen, both groups I'd rank above nightsisters.
Anyway, quibble all you want, it's stated 3 seperate times that these were the cream of the crop.
Originally posted by Selenial
They're obviously decent fighters, but not actually the three best warriors in the order.
Three separate sources all explicitly state otherwise. As much as I don't respect your opinion compared to canon sources.... oh wait thats the end of that sentence.
Originally posted by Selenial
The nightsisters that went with Ventress were however the two best fighters in a clan of warriors feared throughout the galaxy for their strength.
Feared more than the Jedi? Who gives a shit, they're Nightsisters. When challenging someone to a lightsaber duel, I'll pick the Jedi over a Nightsister 80 times out of 10. Since you know, they actually use them.
Originally posted by Selenial
Please, explain what part of my sentence is "lmao" worthy. Surely not that you think those two sisters are featless, since this is ****ing Leeha Narezz. Surely not that the accolades mean nothing unless backed up.... Because this is ****ing Warren Sedoru.Or maybe you think Tol Braga > Ventress. In which case, the only response really is just:
Lol, you're so assblasted.
Originally posted by carthage
Do any unbiased posters( i,e not Neph or Legend) really think this team could beat anyone other than low tier characters?
This is my very first post on this site, so I'd say I'm pretty unbiased. That said, I don't think these three could beat Dooku. Leeha and Warren aren't even Jedi Masters. If they really were among the strongest members of the order, you'd think they would have received the order's highest rank. Neither of them ever shows any skills or powers that your average run-of-the-mill Jedi Knight doesn't have. It's also worth mentioning that Braga built this team to turn Vitiate to the light side, not to kill him. Warren and Leeha were chosen less for their combative skills than for their negotiation and insight. To the extent that the team had to fight, it was pretty clear that Braga and HoT were the ones who were supposed to do the majority of the work.
The way I see this playing out is Warren and Leeha are taken out fairly early by Dooku's superior swordsmanship or a blast of Force lightning. Then it's just a 1 on 1 with Braga, who could probably hold out for a while, but just doesn't have anything that could really threaten Dooku.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzzWelcome and well said. 👆
This is my very first post on this site, so I'd say I'm pretty unbiased. That said, I don't think these three could beat Dooku. Leeha and Warren aren't even Jedi Masters. If they really were among the strongest members of the order, you'd think they would have received the order's highest rank. Neither of them ever shows any skills or powers that your average run-of-the-mill Jedi Knight doesn't have. It's also worth mentioning that Braga built this team to turn Vitiate to the light side, not to kill him. Warren and Leeha were chosen less for their combative skills than for their negotiation and insight. To the extent that the team had to fight, it was pretty clear that Braga and HoT were the ones who were supposed to do the majority of the work.The way I see this playing out is Warren and Leeha are taken out fairly early by Dooku's superior swordsmanship or a blast of Force lightning. Then it's just a 1 on 1 with Braga, who could probably hold out for a while, but just doesn't have anything that could really threaten Dooku.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzz
This is my very first post on this site, so I'd say I'm pretty unbiased. That said, I don't think these three could beat Dooku. Leeha and Warren aren't even Jedi Masters. If they really were among the strongest members of the order, you'd think they would have received the order's highest rank. Neither of them ever shows any skills or powers that your average run-of-the-mill Jedi Knight doesn't have. It's also worth mentioning that Braga built this team to turn Vitiate to the light side, not to kill him. Warren and Leeha were chosen less for their combative skills than for their negotiation and insight. To the extent that the team had to fight, it was pretty clear that Braga and HoT were the ones who were supposed to do the majority of the work.
The way I see this playing out is Warren and Leeha are taken out fairly early by Dooku's superior swordsmanship or a blast of Force lightning. Then it's just a 1 on 1 with Braga, who could probably hold out for a while, but just doesn't have anything that could really threaten Dooku.
Originally posted by The_Tempest
Neph, when you mean you'd put Imperial Guardsmen above Nightsisters, you're not referring to the two that attacked Dooku, are you?
I mean that the average IG > the average Nightsister. I do think 1 of the sisters that attacked Dooku would likely have been butchered by the fortresses defenses though, were she to take Leeha's place.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzz
This is my very first post on this site, so I'd say I'm pretty unbiased. That said, I don't think these three could beat Dooku. Leeha and Warren aren't even Jedi Masters. If they really were among the strongest members of the order, you'd think they would have received the order's highest rank. Neither of them ever shows any skills or powers that your average run-of-the-mill Jedi Knight doesn't have.
For example, Revan became the most powerful and experienced Jedi of the Order during the course of Mandalorian Wars and he still held the rank of Jedi Knight during this time. He was granted the rank of Jedi Master after the Jedi Civil War.
When Mandalorian Wars are officially discussed in the lore [even in in-universe fashion], Revan, Malak and Meetra Surik are hailed as the greatest heroes of the Jedi Order. Members of the Jedi High Council of this era do not match the fame and accomplishments of Revan, Malak and Surik.
Prior to confrontation with Vitiate, Warren Sedoru and Leeha Narezz were not Jedi Masters but they were battle-hardened Jedi Knights nonetheless. Sedoru, in particular, could read the minds of others [Note that Sedoru is the first Jedi to activate his Lightsaber and get ready for confrontation with Vitiate; Sedoru most likely sensed Vitiate's hostile intent earlier then others].
Though Sedoru and Narezz may lack in showings in comparison to many characters, they are officially stated to be among the finest of the Jedi Order. As neutral observors, we should take official disclosures seriously.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzz
It's also worth mentioning that Braga built this team to turn Vitiate to the light side, not to kill him. Warren and Leeha were chosen less for their combative skills than for their negotiation and insight. To the extent that the team had to fight, it was pretty clear that Braga and HoT were the ones who were supposed to do the majority of the work.
MASTER TOL BRAGA has gathered a team of the galaxy's most powerful Jedi. Their goal: find the Emperor's hidden fortress, infiltrate its defenses, capture the Emperor and bring him back to the Jedi Order. (From Star Wars: The Old Republic)
Do you really think that the Jedi would take the risk of infiltrating an Imperial fortress and fight through its defenses, only to proceed to negotiate with the Emperor?
This was a daring and extremely risky mission and Jedi lacking in experience, power and/or skill would not be ideal candidates for it. By all accounts, Vitiate posed greatest threat to the existence of the Jedi Order in galactic history.
Sedoru and Narezz weren't just supposed to negotiate with Vitiate; they were supposed to assist Braga and Hero of Tython in the confrontation, if it occurs. Evidently, Sedoru and Narezz activated their Lightsabers to confront Vitiate after sensing his hostility; watch the footage on YouTube.
By the way, Narezz and Hero of Tython independently fought through the defenses of the Imperial fortress to reach the position of Vitiate. Not sure about Braga and Sedoru though.
Originally posted by DarthBeanzz
The way I see this playing out is Warren and Leeha are taken out fairly early by Dooku's superior swordsmanship or a blast of Force lightning. Then it's just a 1 on 1 with Braga, who could probably hold out for a while, but just doesn't have anything that could really threaten Dooku.
Legend is right, neither were there to negotiate. They immediately ignite their sabers when Vitiate starts talking and don't even try to say anything. Neither are diplomats, they were brought to fight through the defenses and detain Vitiate in combat. As is made clear by their power, strength, resolve and for not knowing the meaning of failure being repeatedly touted as why they were chosen.