Originally posted by DarthAnt66
👆 And honestly, while we have nothing that says its a demonstration of power (since no one has ever done it before), it's clearly an insane feat of willpower and then Force power to keep his body functions and whatnot (which spirit Revan said should have faded to dust) still functional post-death.
Ah, I remember when we pitched that idea around. Good times.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZThe first accolade isn't ambiguous at all, and it can be reasonably assumed via logical inference from the game that the 2nd was done through the force. Him also bringing up his fleet is the only truly ambiguous one, though tearing up his capital ship from the mass shadows of Malachor is immense enough. Revan surpassed such command of the force by the Mando Wars, kek.
Alright, fair enough. TBH dude, even if I do take all that at face-value (though I'm still not sold on the bringing up his fleet) incinerating a ship is still more impressive on a raw scale than lifting up a capital ship (the sheer amount of power it takes to atomize something as durable and large as that....would honestly be off the charts if I bothered to calculate).
Even more impressive when you add in the fact that he moved it before that, and did it while displayed one of the greatest Barrier showings while simultaneously pulling off one of the greatest TK showings in the mythos, at the same time. Also, as I've said before, command doesn't equal Force power. And if we truly are going to take those at face value, we can take Vader being 80 percent of Darth Sidious power at face value, as well as numerous people suggesting Vader > Yoda - and even the higher-ups at Star Wars themselves suggesting it.
We don't because that would be retarded, and actually feats and portrayal disagree with it, the same with Revan being far more powerful than a planet eater and fleet mover. 👆
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZLmfao. Alderaan buildings >/= Vader cathedral. And similarly, that jedi was nothing compared to half-dead Malgus, who'd be reasonably stomped by
someone like Peak! Revan.
Fair enough. Though, Cathedral busting isn't even close to being his best TK showing. LAWL.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZGiven the ease with which Revan did it, possibly? The power of the force in substantiation to the power of sw tech is hard to quantify.
Maybe, maybe not. Honestly I haven't bothered to do research on Laser canons best feats.
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZFunny, because I remember him doing that.[/B]
Mind sharing?
Originally posted by XSUPREMEXSKILLZ Given that Nihilus, Revan's vast inferior, has comparable feats of sheer power to Starkiller, I'd be inclined to disagree. [/B]
1. Still not up-to par with Starkiller's feat on a raw scale.
2. Via various character/creator/writer statements Vader is 80% of the factual most powerful Sith Lord ever in Sidious ; and greater than Yoda in the Force.
3. Command =/= power. I think I explained that well enough with that Durron shit. Feel free to try and debunk that shit if you so please.
Case in point - both of these character have enough showings of they own, they should be directly compared - not retardedly juxtaposing accolades that are either incorrect (Vader's shit), or ambiguous ("Command" is not synonymous with "Power"😉 in how it could be interpreted.
Originally posted by AncientPower
Except your quotes still fly in the face of what the Ruusan Reformations did, which was to change the millions of small sectors to 1,024 enormous ones. That building is clearly large enough and a very close-up image of seating we see is cram-packed with senators.Realising of course how enormous the entire building seems to be when looked at from the POV of the duel. Meaning that the actual stands which stretched right around the podium itself in a wide arc, which all appear very wide and long in other images could most certainly be large enough.
That thing looks far larger than practically every stadium I have seen, some of which contain six digit capacities.
Sorry for the late reply, but better late than never.
So, what you're telling me is that the source you used (The Essential Atlas) directly contradicts itself in the paragraph after my quotes? Uh, no. In fact, the Atlas supports your assertion about the Reformations. What you have failed to understand is that those millions of sectors were not all given seated representation in the Senate.
And, you have failed to address the obvious issue of there being millions of Senators present. As I showed with my quotes, having that many Senators present destroys hope of debate and causes the Senate to slow down to a crawl. Heck, the quote literally says that the Senate can't function with that many people present, hence the need for a distinction between seated and unseated Senates.
Also, if the Senate were large enough for there to be that many in there, it would simply take too long for Kun to walk from one side to the other and finally be addressed. Indeed, after Exar Kun enters he is only addressed when he reaches Ulic's stand, which sits at the far end of the hall. How is it that Kun can traverse such a 'massive' stadium without anyone addressing him unless the building is smaller than you think?
And, btw, the duel doesn't give any perspective on the size of the building. Nothing meaningful, at least.
So yeah, I'll restate my position. The political landscape does not allow for millions to be seated there. The size of the building logically does not allow millions to be seated there. And common sense does not allow millions to be seated there.
But again I'll state, take your thousands and move on. Kun isn't that desperate for hype that you need to reach this much, okay?
lol
Durron matches or defeats Novel!Vitiate unless if Vitiate can pull some sorcery hack, which I suppose is possible.
Kun beats SoR Revan, pending Ant's meme-worthy, month in the making last reply that is supposed to end my career or something.
Starkiller crushes HoT like a bug and then gangs up on Novel!Vitiate.
HoT is the weak link and loses it for team 2.