Originally posted by Darth ThorFirst off I'd never do a battlezone I wasn't interested in as I have a life and clearly you don't. Secondly, you backed down to me the day of.
Of course you didn't. Because it would be an Utter Embarrassment to all your Khan vs Jedi/Sith Threads if you lost. And you know you would Lose 😂So Concession Accepted
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You say Vader is the strongest ever and backed down to Khan repped by me. How ironic.
Originally posted by quanchi112
It is up to the poster to decide what counts. I'm following canon you aren't. You can't let go of the past. It doesn't count. Disney erdicated all of the legends stuff, sugar.
Wrong, Quanchi.
If anyone decides what counts here, it's the threadstarter. As he didn't make any mention of "new canon only feats", it means everything applies. In fact, he specifically sited the events of a comic book, "Son of Dathomir" (SoD), that, following the current canon policy, under which only the movies, the Clone Wars series and Rebels (and publications released past September 2014) count as canon, be a part of the "Legends" universe itself. Thus your application of the new canon rules makes absolutely no sense here.
Sidious announces he will now die. We see Luke didn't defend himself against the lightning other than just absorbing the pain. There was nothing he could do in that situation except plead for Vader's help.
I've already demonstrated, that Sidious wasn't attacking him with the full power of his force lightning ability, which is obvious, as we don't see Luke's skeleton glowing through his skin which happened on both occassions were Sidious did use the ability to its fullest effect (against Vader / Mace). Furthermore, I wonder how we should "see" Luke making use of a mythological energy field in order to attempt and protect himself from Sidious attack...
And in fact, that is what the script says:
Blinding bolts of energy, evil lightning, shoot from the Emperor's hands at Luke. Even in his surprise, the young Jedi tries to use the Force to deflect them.
Emphasis mine.
We see the film that he doesn't block any of it. He's just taking it like Maul did as well or Windu after Anakin cut his hand off. No, nothing suggests he held back save for faulty reasoning for your sickening agenda.
I find it rather funny, that you keep glossing over the fact, that both Mace and Vader are seen to start glowing with their bones becoming visible, when Sidious hit them with his lightning, while nothing like that happens, when he hits Luke.
That's what the script says so keep rolling your eyes and making things up.
It is pretty obvious, that Vader is using the force, even if they don't spell it out and you're probably the only person on the planet stupid enough to not get it. Here is the ESB script vesion of the scene for reference:
Faster than the wink of an eye, Han draws his blaster and pops off a couple of shots directly at Vader. The Dark Lord quickly raises his hand, deflecting the bolts into one of the side walls, where they explode harmlessly. Just as quickly, Han's weapon zips into Vader's hand. The evil presence calmly places the gun on the table in front of him.
I suppose since Vader also isn't said to use the Force to disarm Solo, the smugglers weapon made a decission to jump out of his hand and into Vader's, because it didn't dare to fire at the Dark Lord another time. 🙄
I do get it Yoda had two seconds to react and the fl hit his body and what happened ? It ko'd him. We don't see them or anyone create this ability with their chest but with the palm of their hands. We see that my theory is proven correct whereas yours isn't. Vader also took the fl because he was busy picking up Palpatine and can't repel the fl with his body. Obviously. When you make baseless claims have evidence to prove them not useless conjecture.
Actually, Yoda moves his hands in front of his eyes, so the lightning is mostly hitting his hands, really - and still tosses him around. Wonder how that happened with the force defense tied to his hands. Or, maybe, does it require some focus to force the lightning energy to a certain point to deflect it, as the arcs of lightning are obviously bigger than Yoda's hands. And when Yoda can force those arcs into his hands, why would he be incapable of forcing them to impact elsewhere?
Hence why we have people in the "Legends" field that created force bubbles around them capable of repelling Force lightning (and other attacks).
Their energy met each other and Dooku was required to aid him. That's a fact.
He maybe was required in order to win. But before that, it was already a stalemate in terms of power, in a place that was "the heart of Talzin's power". Fact.
It means he isn't going to torture him like previously but that he meant to kill him. We've never seen fl's power alone kill someone so there isn't an example which you can lean on. Don't ignore the facts but instead embrace them. You seek to distort facts in every debate I've ever seen you in.
You're still glossing over the fact, that Luke doesn't turn into a bizarre christmas tree with his bones glowing through his skin by the power of Sidious lightning, which happened to both Mace and Vader when Sidious did hit them with a full barrage of the energy.
And, though I'm very sorry for you, we see somebody being killed by Lightning. Namely Mace, whom Sidious kills with Force lightning, which is pretty apparent from the RotS Novel:
Dark lightning blasted away his universe. He fell forever.
He dies while Sidious fires lightning at him. Furthermore, it would be rather stupid of Sidious to announce to kill Luke and than attack him with lightning which, according to you, isn't deadly. He does the very same against Mace Windu by the way. So your rather moronic idea is pretty much contradicted by the sources you keep siting. Force lightning = deadly.
Vader had a suit which prolonged his life. It damaged the suit but guess what Luke doesn't have a suit so it wouldn't have the same effect now would it ??
Still ignoring Mace Windu, are we?
We see then die. Some don't need multiple shots but the clones don't take any chances and pump those weak Jedi full of blasters. Almost the entire order was taken out in a night. Blasters leave visible damage and are simply more powerful than fl. The only way you can say otherwise is that ridiculous noncanon eu nonsense. Disney doesn't recognize it and neither do it.
We also see Windu die, being killed by lightning.
We see Leia and Luke not being killed by blasters, when especially Luke receives a full on hit by a blaster gun.
Your attempt at distorting the truth and ignoring canon is resisting the tide. Eventually you will get pulled in.
The Tide? I'm afraid, Quanchi. In the fields of logic and reason, you're ebb incarnated.
Originally posted by NaiWrong.
Wrong, Quanchi.
If anyone decides what counts here, it's the threadstarter. As he didn't make any mention of "new canon only feats", it means everything applies. In fact, he specifically sited the events of a comic book, "Son of Dathomir" (SoD), that, following the current canon policy, under which only the movies, the Clone Wars series and Rebels (and publications released past September 2014) count as canon, be a part of the "Legends" universe itself. Thus your application of the new canon rules makes absolutely no sense here.I've already demonstrated, that Sidious wasn't attacking him with the full power of his force lightning ability, which is obvious, as we don't see Luke's skeleton glowing through his skin which happened on both occassions were Sidious did use the ability to its fullest effect (against Vader / Mace). Furthermore, I wonder how we should "see" Luke making use of a mythological energy field in order to attempt and protect himself from Sidious attack...
And in fact, that is what the script says:
Blinding bolts of energy, evil lightning, shoot from the Emperor's hands at Luke. Even in his surprise, [b]the young Jedi tries to use the Force to deflect them.
Emphasis mine.
I find it rather funny, that you keep glossing over the fact, that both Mace and Vader are seen to start glowing with their bones becoming visible, when Sidious hit them with his lightning, while nothing like that happens, when he hits Luke.
It is pretty obvious, that Vader is using the force, even if they don't spell it out and you're probably the only person on the planet stupid enough to not get it. Here is the ESB script vesion of the scene for reference:
Faster than the wink of an eye, Han draws his blaster and pops off a couple of shots directly at Vader. The Dark Lord quickly raises his hand, deflecting the bolts into one of the side walls, where they explode harmlessly. Just as quickly, Han's weapon zips into Vader's hand. The evil presence calmly places the gun on the table in front of him.
I suppose since Vader also isn't said to use the Force to disarm Solo, the smugglers weapon made a decission to jump out of his hand and into Vader's, because it didn't dare to fire at the Dark Lord another time. 🙄
Actually, Yoda moves his hands in front of his eyes, so the lightning is mostly hitting his hands, really - and still tosses him around. Wonder how that happened with the force defense tied to his hands. Or, maybe, does it require some focus to force the lightning energy to a certain point to deflect it, as the arcs of lightning are obviously bigger than Yoda's hands. And when Yoda can force those arcs into his hands, why would he be incapable of forcing them to impact elsewhere?
Hence why we have people in the "Legends" field that created force bubbles around them capable of repelling Force lightning (and other attacks).
He maybe was required in order to win. But before that, it was already a stalemate in terms of power, in a place that was "the heart of Talzin's power". Fact.
You're still glossing over the fact, that Luke doesn't turn into a bizarre christmas tree with his bones glowing through his skin by the power of Sidious lightning, which happened to both Mace and Vader when Sidious did hit them with a full barrage of the energy.
And, though I'm very sorry for you, we see somebody being killed by Lightning. Namely Mace, whom Sidious kills with Force lightning, which is pretty apparent from the RotS Novel:
Dark lightning blasted away his universe. He fell forever.
He dies while Sidious fires lightning at him. Furthermore, it would be rather stupid of Sidious to announce to kill Luke and than attack him with lightning which, according to you, isn't deadly. He does the very same against Mace Windu by the way. So your rather moronic idea is pretty much contradicted by the sources you keep siting. Force lightning = deadly.
Still ignoring Mace Windu, are we?
We also see Windu die, being killed by lightning.
We see Leia and Luke not being killed by blasters, when especially Luke receives a full on hit by a blaster gun.The Tide? I'm afraid, Quanchi. In the fields of logic and reason, you're ebb incarnated. [/B]
default, then, we will be keeping with the new Disney canon and all threads will normally proceed on that basis. This means that non-canon sources are not viable things to bring into a discussion- for example, talking about continuity related to Vader's fight with Luke in Splinter of the Mind's Eye (a novel so non-canon that it ended up shunted out of pretty much all interpretations of continuity) would effectively be off-topic and the mods would ask you to stop (with common sense involved of course- if talking about it in humour or just to contrast-
See I'm right and that's the default. The op makes no mention of eu and references canon events so you're wrong and it's so easy to prove you dint understand the rules yet proclaim you do. It's enjoyable for me to point out how wrong you are on the forum you've posted on and yet I have to educate you on the rules. Son of Dathomir is canon and is an exception. 😉
No, you've speculated and ignored the meaning of his own words to enforce your hilariously illogical theory. So what ? We see Palpatine burn himself trying to get to Windu and don't see his skeleton either. Tries and fails. Point mine.
Palpatine didn't even hit Vader directly and was hoisted up against his will. He was shooting the same fl he hit Luke with. Quit ignoring his own words and the events of the scene to paint another picture by conjecture only.
No, he didn't use the force he used his hand. We don't see one other canon example of anyone using the force to repel blaster fire. We see Yoda do so to fl but it's weaker than blaster fire hence why it's possible.
The gun does zip away via the force IMO but that isn't the same thing as his hand deflecting the blasts. The script is also littered with hyperbole. Again you don't have one other canon feat to support your claim the force can deflect blaster fire out of over 20 hours of canon evidence.
He has to concentrate to use the ability obviously. There's no evidence of anyone repelling it with their stomachs or faces though. Yoda used the force ability but clearly has to use his hand and redirect it if he's powerful enough in another direction. We see his limits taxed in rots when the explosion of the impact sent them both back.
Not canon and default says it does not count.
She was weakened as well in that instance. She wasn't amped in any way mentioned in the comic. We also have direct examples of Palpatine and his fl. Quit acting like there aren't inconsistencies in fiction and that everything needs to line up.
So what ? It didn't happen to Sidious either when he was trying to kill Windu so again it doesn't mean anything. Sidious was firing up and not even directly hitting Vader anyways.
He died from the fall. The force didn't kill him and nice job quoting hyperbole.
He blasted Windu out of the window to his death. He wasn't killed by the fl, 😂
Fl has never directly killed someone by its power alone. Not once.
You tried distorting the fact he fell to his death.
Windu died from the fall. We also see that left more of an impact than fl which didn't even scar or open a wound on Luke for over ten seconds set to kill according to Palpatine.
You don't even realize that canon is the default and everything mentioned in the op was canon. You will fall forever in debating against me with your twisting of the facts.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Wrong.[B]default, then, we will be keeping with the new Disney canon and all threads will normally proceed on that basis. This means that non-canon sources are not viable things
to bring into a discussion- for example, talking about continuity related to Vader's fight with Luke in Splinter of the Mind's Eye (a novel so non-canon that it ended up shunted out of pretty much all interpretations of continuity) would effectively be off-topic and the mods would ask you to stop (with common sense involved of course- if talking about it in humour or just to contrast-See I'm right and that's the default.
"If you want to talk about old Legends continuity, no problem- just make this very clear, either in the thread topic or the opening post. It makes a lot more sense to confine such things to the Literature forum though, as the canonicity of the EU to the films was always debatable."
No matter what Ushgarak puts in the forum rules: This particular subforum here has never made a destinction between movie and EU canon and, if you'd have a look at the actual first page of this board, there are a grant total of 5 out of 50 threads that would work using "Disney canon only". Obviously, the members here don't care much about "Disney canon only" threads, as they have been used to discussing everything in the EU for more than a decade and are - via TOR - actively participating in it.
Furthermore, you have been told by virtual all other participants of this very debate, that they want to include "Legends" here. Not that it even matters, because you're still losing the debate without it. But standing here and proclaiming "Disney canon only!" just makes you look like the spoiled little baby you are.
The op makes no mention of eu and references canon events so you're wrong and it's so easy to prove you dint understand the rules yet proclaim you do. It's enjoyable for me to point out how wrong you are on the forum you've posted on and yet I have to educate you on the rules. Son of Dathomir is canon and is an exception. 😉
I wasn't aware of the fact, that I was posting in the Literature forum, from which you've taken the "rules". I didn't see any "rules" surfacing in this very subforum. So? 😉
No, you've speculated and ignored the meaning of his own words to enforce your hilariously illogical theory. So what ? We see Palpatine burn himself trying to get to Windu and don't see his skeleton either. Tries and fails. Point mine.
Is that the same Sidious, that has his skin "melting" because hitting himself with the deflected lightning that, according to you, doesn't do visible damage? 🙂
Palpatine didn't even hit Vader directly and was hoisted up against his will. He was shooting the same fl he hit Luke with. Quit ignoring his own words and the events of the scene to paint another picture by conjecture only.
Lmao. Yeah. Vader wasn't hit by the lightning. He started glowing out of convenience to present the audience a better view. 👆 Also there is this from the ROTJ script:
Although it would not have seemed possible, the outpouring of bolts from the Emperor's fingers actually increases in intensity, the sound screaming through the room. Luke's body writhes in pain.
This is right before Vader picks Sidious up. Apparently, Sidious was about to increase the power of his lightning to "kill" level, when he was interrupted by Vader, meaning that Luke wasn't hit with it - but Vader was.
No, he didn't use the force he used his hand. We don't see one other canon example of anyone using the force to repel blaster fire. We see Yoda do so to fl but it's weaker than blaster fire hence why it's possible.
So you are making the inference, that Vader's suit (his hand) can deflect blaster fire, but can not protect him from force lightning? That helps you're argument how exactly? 🙂
The gun does zip away via the force IMO but that isn't the same thing as his hand deflecting the blasts. The script is also littered with hyperbole. Again you don't have one other canon feat to support your claim the force can deflect blaster fire out of over 20 hours of canon evidence.
The point is, that in both instances, there is no mentioning of the Force at all, because it is fairly obvious that the Force is used in both instances. I also don't see any other instance of blaster fire bouncing away from Vader's suit, which would the only other explanation be for that scene: His suit is blaster safe. Then why isn't it capable of stopping force lightning?
I've also no canon evidence of a single character using the toilet, so I suppose that nobody in the SW universe needs to do that. Silly "logic".
She was weakened as well in that instance. She wasn't amped in any way mentioned in the comic. We also have direct examples of Palpatine and his fl. Quit acting like there aren't inconsistencies in fiction and that everything needs to line up.
I don't see any mentioning of her being "weakened". And the guy that needs every use of the Force spelled out asks for me to "overlook" inconsistencies in fiction, that just happen inside his head? 👆
So what ? It didn't happen to Sidious either when he was trying to kill Windu so again it doesn't mean anything. Sidious was firing up and not even directly hitting Vader anyways.
Sidious face was still melting from just the lightning that was deflected back, which probably wasn't all he fired at Windu (as some might have been absorbed by the blade). Another thing, that doesn't happen to Luke. And the lightning arcs bend back into Vader, so I don't see how it matter whether Sidious was hitting him directly. Again: If Sidious generates a greater effect on Vader than he did on Luke, while not even hitting him directly, that - once again - doesn't help your argument.
He died from the fall. The force didn't kill him and nice job quoting hyperbole.
According to the novel, he is killed by the lightning. You don't decide what is hyperbole or not, Quanchi. It's there, it's canon.
He blasted Windu out of the window to his death. He wasn't killed by the fl, 😂
The novel says he was. End of debate.
Fl has never directly killed someone by its power alone. Not once.
It kills Mace. Furthermore, there still remains that inconvenient fact, that Sidious thought it capable of killing people, since he used it after proclaiming he wanted to kill them.
You tried distorting the fact he fell to his death.Windu died from the fall.
No matter how often you say something else: The novel makes it clear that Windu died from the lightning. Which was exactly what Sidious wanted, if I may remind you.
We also see that left more of an impact than fl which didn't even scar or open a wound on Luke for over ten seconds set to kill according to Palpatine.
The same force lightning that did scar Palpatine quite good when he had it thrown back into his own face?
You don't even realize that canon is the default and everything mentioned in the op was canon. You will fall forever in debating against me with your twisting of the facts.
Since you're even incapable of grasping the contents of the rather limited Disney canon, you're probably wrong here. Just go back to your movie versus Forum and "prove" that Khan could take God in a 1 vs 1. 👆
Originally posted by quanchi112
First off I'd never do a battlezone I wasn't interested in as I have a life and clearly you don't. Secondly, you backed down to me the day of.
Of course you're not interested. Because it'd put an end to all your Khan vs Jedi/Sith Trolling.
Oh sure TROLLS have a life now.
Keep running from Ahsoka vs Khan
I keep exposing your true colours again and again and again 😂
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Originally posted by Darth Thor
Of course you're not interested. Because it'd put an end to all your Khan vs Jedi/Sith Trolling.Oh sure TROLLS have a life now.
Keep running from Ahsoka vs Khan
I keep exposing your true colours again and again and again 😂
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Omg, that video is too funny. 😆 😆 😆
Originally posted by Naithose are the rules. They were updated. Everything mentioned was canon so abide by the forum rules. This thread is canon only. Quit citing noncanon stories.
"If you want to talk about old Legends continuity, no problem- just make this very clear, either in the thread topic or the opening post. [b]It makes a lot more sense to confine such things to the Literature forum though, as the canonicity of the EU to the films was always debatable."No matter what Ushgarak puts in the forum rules: This particular subforum here has never made a destinction between movie and EU canon and, if you'd have a look at the actual first page of this board, there are a grant total of 5 out of 50 threads that would work using "Disney canon only". Obviously, the members here don't care much about "Disney canon only" threads, as they have been used to discussing everything in the EU for more than a decade and are - via TOR - actively participating in it.
Furthermore, you have been told by virtual all other participants of this very debate, that they want to include "Legends" here. Not that it even matters, because you're still losing the debate without it. But standing here and proclaiming "Disney canon only!" just makes you look like the spoiled little baby you are.
I wasn't aware of the fact, that I was posting in the Literature forum, from which you've taken the "rules". I didn't see any "rules" surfacing in this very subforum. So? 😉
Is that the same Sidious, that has his skin "melting" because hitting himself with the deflected lightning that, according to you, doesn't do visible damage? 🙂
Lmao. Yeah. Vader wasn't hit by the lightning. He started glowing out of convenience to present the audience a better view. 👆 Also there is this from the ROTJ script:
Although it would not have seemed possible, the outpouring of bolts from the Emperor's fingers actually increases in intensity, the sound screaming through the room. Luke's body writhes in pain.
This is right before Vader picks Sidious up. Apparently, Sidious was about to increase the power of his lightning to "kill" level, when he was interrupted by Vader, meaning that Luke wasn't hit with it - but Vader was.
So you are making the inference, that Vader's suit (his hand) can deflect blaster fire, but can not protect him from force lightning? That helps you're argument how exactly? 🙂
The point is, that in both instances, there is no mentioning of the Force at all, because it is fairly obvious that the Force is used in both instances. I also don't see any other instance of blaster fire bouncing away from Vader's suit, which would the only other explanation be for that scene: His suit is blaster safe. Then why isn't it capable of stopping force lightning?
I've also no canon evidence of a single character using the toilet, so I suppose that nobody in the SW universe needs to do that. Silly "logic".
I don't see any mentioning of her being "weakened". And the guy that needs every use of the Force spelled out asks for me to "overlook" inconsistencies in fiction, that just happen inside his head? 👆
Sidious face was still melting from just the lightning that was deflected back, which probably wasn't all he fired at Windu (as some might have been absorbed by the blade). Another thing, that doesn't happen to Luke. And the lightning arcs bend back into Vader, so I don't see how it matter whether Sidious was hitting him directly. Again: If Sidious generates a greater effect on Vader than he did on Luke, while not even hitting him directly, that - once again - doesn't help your argument.
According to the novel, he is killed by the lightning. You don't decide what is hyperbole or not, Quanchi. It's there, it's canon.
The novel says he was. End of debate.
It kills Mace. Furthermore, there still remains that inconvenient fact, that Sidious thought it capable of killing people, since he used it after proclaiming he wanted to kill them.
No matter how often you say something else: The novel makes it clear that Windu died from the lightning. Which was exactly what Sidious wanted, if I may remind you.
The same force lightning that did scar Palpatine quite good when he had it thrown back into his own face?
Since you're even incapable of grasping the contents of the rather limited Disney canon, you're probably wrong here. Just go back to your movie versus Forum and "prove" that Khan could take God in a 1 vs 1. 👆 [/B]
Disney decreed your stories irrelevant and the op doesn't say anything about eu. Canon is default so glad to clear this up for someone living in the last when eu matters. It doesn't anymore. 😂
Default rules for the Star Wars eu thread. I didn't write the rules, kid.
It does do damage to a geriatrics skin which is far less durable and resilient than a younger person such as Luke's skin. 🙂
Scarring is all despite multiple seconds point blank to a geriatric. 💃
He wasn't hit directly by the Lightning as Sheev didn't even fire it at him and was tossed to his death. Yes, Palpatine increases the intensity throughout his torture sessions and then decides to kill him. Despite over thrifty seconds combined no scarring. Awful.
No, incorrect per Sheev's words. Vader's shit malfunctioned due to the fl and he knew he'd die. Luke was fine. We also see Sidious' facial expressions snarling showing he's laying into him.
His hand was picking up Sheev and he didn't deflect it. Wtf aren't you getting ? Vader was totally susceptible as he was throwing the geriatric to his death. The all powerful emperor killed by his own guy minus a hand and a weapon. 😂
No, the force is only used to disarm and we've seen plenty of other examples of the force doing so. Have we seen the force deflect blaster fire ? Nope.
Read the comic. Getting a new body weakened her. At no point does the comic make mention of some all powerful amp taking place.
Geriatric skin is easier to damage. That's a fact. Next question.
No, the novel never says the Lightning killed him. You're a liar. The fall did and we see he isn't dead and that he's falling and still alive.
No, it doesn't.
No, the fall did. Fl didn't kill his defenseless ass there, shame.
No, you are trying to twist the words and ignore the film which clearly shows him alive. He fell to his death.
Khan is another matter altogether. You won't even face Khan you coward. Stew in your own filth.
Originally posted by Darth ThorYou shouldn't speak of yourself in that way.
Of course you're not interested. Because it'd put an end to all your Khan vs Jedi/Sith Trolling.Oh sure TROLLS have a life now.
Keep running from Ahsoka vs Khan
I keep exposing your true colours again and again and again 😂
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You have no guts and wouldn't even back Vader. Now you're saying you'll back someone less powerful than him. GTFO. Stick to the sidelines.
Khan vs. Palpatine up next.
Originally posted by DarthAnt66I may be busy but I may not be. It's better than any Star Wars film to date so you'll enjoy it. The sooner we can start the better.
I look forward to it. 👆Like I said, I'll try my best to watch "Star Trek: Into Retardation" by Monday. You said you're busy next week though, so hopefully I'll be ready by the following.
Ps. Why is Nai such a coward ? Has he always been this way ?
Originally posted by DarthAnt66When you see Khan you may want to jump ship.
I doubt it, but I wouldn't be surprised if it's better than TPM or AOTC, to be honest.PS: You're love-hate relationship with Nai doesn't concern me as long as c** doesn't get on me.
Do you even like Palpatine ? Is he one if your favorite canon Star Wars characters anyways ?
Tempest doesn't care for him and I just wondered.
Originally posted by quanchi112
When you see Khan you may want to jump ship.Do you even like Palpatine ? Is he one if your favorite canon Star Wars characters anyways ?
Tempest doesn't care for him and I just wondered.
In canon? Definitely. I'm a lot more into Legends than Canon though. KotOR and SWTOR are my focus.
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Originally posted by quanchi112
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Since I can't be bothered any longer to answer this bullshit point by point, let's sum your arguments up.
Force lightning vs blasters
Vader's suit is blaster resistant, which allows him to deflect blaster fire with his hand without using the Force. The same suit does not grant him any form of protection against Force Lightning. Despite of that, Force Lightning is still more powerful than a blaster shot. 🙄
Force lightning isn't deadly
Despite the fact that Darth Sidious uses the ability twice after having made the proclamation that he is going to kill people, the ability he then utilizes isn't really capable of killing people. Apparently, Sidious is some kind of moron, who doesn't know the extend of his own power - at least not better, than Quanchi does. 🙄
The inconvenient death of Mace Windu after being hit by a barrage of Force Lightning is attributed to his fall from the window of Sidious office. Based on, well, nothing, as the novel clearly proclaims, that he is killed by the lightning. The likewise inconvenient death of Darth Vader is also explained away by a malfunctioning of his life support system after the Force Lightning attack. 🙄
In both cases (Vader, Mace) we are to assume that being hit by radiation (e.g. force lightning) that makes your bones shine through your skeleton won't do any kind of internal damage or might even be lethal. Because...Quanchi doesn't need reasons. 🙄
Force Lightning doesn't do visible damage
The unfortunate transformation of Sidious' skin into a rather deformed conglomeration of flesh is explained by the idea, that - somehow - his "old" skin reacts far more massively to force lightning, than Luke's younger skin does. 🙄
Quanchi knows that new skin is far better suited against external damage than older skin. This is why he wears slippers made from the skin of toddlers rather than leather boots. 👆 🙄
At this point, one may point to the fact, that force lightning, being deflected by Yoda and Dooku in AotC, generates a rather huge explosion when hitting the ceiling, indicating that there is quite some amount of power involved in force lightning. But I'm certain, Quanchi will have another brilliant explanation for this. Maybe the force lightning in question did hit an oil-tank that we just didn't see byfore it exploded. 🙄
So this is Star Wars according to Quanchi, ladies and gentleman. 👆