Supernatural Season 11

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Originally posted by The_Tempest
I agree. The problem is that the show has been Dean-centric for years and years and years. Most of the supporting characters have stronger relationships with Dean: Castiel, Bobby, Crowley, John, Death, etc. Most of the major kills have been awarded to Dean. Sam is more or less the bookworm and backup to Dean's heroics.

Yeah, sadly even this season has been kinda Dean-centric with the whole Darkness thing, and the Sam/Lucifer subplot initially made Sam look kinda dumb, but he redeemed himself when he basically told Lucifer to go f*** himself. But I am hoping this paves the way for Sam to actually get to gank the big bad for a change. It's seriously his turn by this point. Dean got Abaddon, Cain and Death in recent seasons, as well as Eve and Dick Roman in some earlier ones, IIRC. Can't even remember the last serious villain Sam killed.

I actually wish they would do an episode about the past deaths of Sam and Dean. In season 5 when they go to heaven and see Ash he remarks that he's seen them multiple times before, so I want to know when and who killed them.

I also want to know if someone was bringing them back for..some purpose, then what about the times they had to sell their souls to get back? I mean if it was the angels sending them back they kind of dropped the ball a few times.

Originally posted by Surtur
I actually wish they would do an episode about the past deaths of Sam and Dean. In season 5 when they go to heaven and see Ash he remarks that he's seen them multiple times before, so I want to know when and who killed them.

I also want to know if someone was bringing them back for..some purpose, then what about the times they had to sell their souls to get back? I mean if it was the angels sending them back they kind of dropped the ball a few times.

But the angels wanted the apocalypse to happen, at least most of them did. So the way they behaved at times made no sense.

I also ALWAYS hated the fact that Dean really acted like a piece of shit and tried to basically put most of the blame onto Sam for the Apocalypse. When it's really his bff Castiel who did it. Who released Sam from Bobby's trap room? Castiel.

This is why it is funny whenever you have these powerful supernatural beings who are always implying the Winchesters mess shit up, but it's really the variety of supernatural beings manipulating them that are truly at fault.

Originally posted by Surtur
But the angels wanted the apocalypse to happen, at least most of them did. So the way they behaved at times made no sense.

Originally posted by Mindset
What do you mean?

They act like they wanted to stop Lilith from breaking the seals. Remember they were going to nuke an entire city just to stop a seal from being broken. Then it turned out that..no, they don't want to stop the seals from being broken, they want to stop Lucifer..after he has been released.

Not all the angels were in on it though. It was basically just higher ups.

Originally posted by Kento
Not all the angels were in on it though. It was basically just higher ups.

Castiel knew, he released Sam from his cage and then..well you know what happened next, right? Oh sure Castiel eventually changed his mind..too little too late of course.

Then in the next season Dean flat out blamed Sam for the Apocalypse. Since you see it's not like Dean broke the first seal..oh shit wait he did.

What I love about the latest episode is Lucifer is 100% correct. Humanity didn't really get punished for dropping nukes, but Lucifer got punished for essentially questioning God.

He was going for broke too it seems, looking to sit on both thrones. He's in a spot of bother now though.

So they basically also confirmed what some people speculated about Castiel's vessel being unique, and extra tough, being able to house both an archangel and a seraph and, temporarily, a powerful demon on top of that, plus what Sam said.

"You know what they say, he who hesitates, disintegrates". Just awesome. I prefer Luciel over the normal Castiel.

Hey there's another pair of hunters that didn't get horribly murdered after encountering the Winchesters. If one more hunter escapes their death aura then does that mean they can start making friends again?

Oh my Chuck its about time

It was nice to see Metatron call God out on some of his bullshit.

I don't want to hear people whining this show isn't good anymore, they just put out one of the best episodes of the series.

Though I do like how God says he avoids divine intervention at all costs. You know..except when Sam and Dean are involved. You'd think God would know what words mean.

Well he did say he was fed up with the Winchesters because they kept being dumb. But yea this episode was great.

So I dislike spoiler tags. It's one thing if it's for one sentence, but I'd rather not spoiler tag more or less an entire post. So if someone hasn't seen the latest two episodes do not continue reading.

So another good episode. It was nice to see them confront God and his lack of action, but I admit I found Chucks excuses to be lacking. He certainly had a point about overparenting and I don't think it would necessarily be his job to stop our wars and all that. I get stepping away from that. But stepping away from all this supernatural bullshit is quite another story. Your world has more then just human problems and yet your explanation is only valid in a world only plagued by human problems. I kind of wanted Dean to punch Chuck.

Chuck's plan was also retarded. "Well gee if I fail you guys can just defeat her". Sam and Dean are good, but most of their big wins only came with help from powerful supernatural entities. Which as they've made clear the only entity who can even do anything to Amara is Chuck.

Anyways, so Chuck apparently brings Kevin back to life in this episode..only for another prophet to be activated and used. I kind of don't get the point in even having Kevin show up then. Bringing him back to life so he could help find Amara would of made sense and yet..it seemed just like a waste.

Also sucks to see Metatron bite it. He could be entertaining at times. Can't say I'm shocked he died as a "good" guy..his heart never seemed truly in it when he was trying to be evil.

I also can't help feeling that when Lucifer first see's Chuck at the end it honestly looked like he was about to start crying and then hug him. Aww he just misses his Daddy. Meanwhile Michael is just kind of rotting away lol.

Final thoughts: it's depressing God was at one point into Becky.

He didn't bring Kevin back, he just let Kevins ghost be heard. Then sent him into heaven so he was at rest...

Okay that makes a lot more sense. But damn though the dude could of brought him back lol.

Well, if nothing else, things have certainly swayed heavily in the favour of Team Winchester now, especially since

Spoiler:
Chuck seems to be doing a good job of punking Amara as it is, even without Lucifer's assistance.

I still think that to kill Amara you will need to kill Dean.