High End Thor vs HP Doomsday

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Asgard wouldn't need a designation since they are so closely related to mainstream Marvel continuity.
Pretty sure designation numbers were created to differentiate similar characters from alternate universes or earths(ie. Capt Britain).

Not every universe is the same. Not everything or everyone has a counterpart. It's spelled out for you here. A ten year old can understand it.

Always was. Always will be.

And no, every alternate reality or universe is given a number designations.

Your scan is meaningless. It just says that every mythology is true. It doesn't makes Asgard a parallel universe to 616 universe.

That's never going to happen.

Originally posted by abhilegend
It doesn't needs that because it's a pocket universe.

Always was. Always will be.

And no, every alternate reality or universe is given a number designations.

Your scan is meaningless. It just says that every mythology is true. It doesn't makes Asgard a parallel universe to 616 universe.

That's never going to happen.

It's not.

LOL at thorbags saying the realms are universes!

Originally posted by Kryptoniano
LOL at thorbags saying the realms are universes!

Originally posted by h1a8

Each universe has a number. Marvel has established the 616 universe for years.

It contains Asgard and the other realms.

Asgard-Space, also known as the Sea of Space, is the universe that contains the Asgard landmass.

It was always outside 616, even when it was just a pocket-reality.

The only difference nowadays, is that it's an infinite universe. Unlike a pocket which has boundaries.

Originally posted by Mr Master
A myth I should bust, but just ain't got the time nowadays.

Asgard-Space, also known as the Sea of Space, is the universe that contains the Asgard landmass.

It was always [b]outside 616, even when it was just a pocket-reality.

The only difference nowadays, is that it's an infinite universe. Unlike a pocket which has boundaries. [/B]

You would be going against continuity as well as official bios.

Originally posted by h1a8

All universes have boundaries. The big bang proves it.

Originally posted by h1a8

You would be going against continuity as well as official bios.

The universe Asgard is contained within, is outside 616, way outside 616 in fact.

I have plenty of scans ready if need be.

h1 has logic to disprove you!!!!

Still waiting for scans of Odin walking up to a physical manifestation of Yggdrasil and ripping off Heven then placing it somewhere totally out of the way.

Originally posted by Mr Master
... not in Marvel comics. Unless some new writer has changed that, in which case I would need to see proof.
Because I have tons of proof pointing in the opposite direction.

Concerning Asgard, I have absolutely no doubt, I'm correct.

The universe Asgard is contained within, is outside 616, way outside 616 in fact.

I have plenty of scans ready if need be.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Still waiting for scans of Odin walking up to a physical manifestation of Yggdrasil and ripping off Heven then placing it somewhere totally out of the way.

Originally posted by h1a8

It's says in the scan that Odin did. Also you see Odin ripping a small landmass (not a universe ) away.

Wait.. Are you now saying that it was Heven the actual land mass and not the realm that was displaced? If so, how do you explain Angela hinting and travelling to other planets and or galaxies?

Originally posted by h1a8

I totally disagree. Asgard-Space is inside the 616 universe.

Even the rainbow bridged proved that .

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Asgard is ... "far beyond this realm of Space and Time" (616)

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Asgard is .... "an incomputable distance away, ... far beyond the reach of Mortal Time" (616)

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Asgard is ... "far beyond the conventional boundaries of Reality" (616)

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Asgard is ... "a distant Dimension" ... or "another Plane of Reality" (either way, outside 616)

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Asgard is ... "an extra-Dimensional Realm" (therefore outside 616)

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Asgard is ... separated from 616 by "Dimensional Barriers" (no different than any other universe)

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Asgard is ... "Far beyond mortal man's understanding of Time and Space" (616) ...

"Beyond even his wildest dreams of Reality" (616)

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You mentioned the "Rainbow Bridge" ... but with out that "Bridge," Asgard has no access to the 616 universe:

The "Bridge" is an inter-dimensional passage way/portal that traverses "an infinite void" to reach 616:

Bifrost by-passes Space and Time to reach 616 and vice-versa. (another space-time is another universe)
Thor (mjolnir able to dimension hop) still had difficulty reaching Asgard from 616 when the Bridge was broken:

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Btw, all the Pantheons are located in realms outside 616, from Olympus to Ancient Egypt,
and they themselves are separate from each other as well,
in some cases, by infinite universes, as silly as it sounds.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I see. Well, what I'm about to present is an array of different writer's interpretation of Asgard's location,
we'll see if there's anything familiar between them.

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Asgard is ... "far beyond this realm of Space and Time" (616)

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Asgard is .... "an incomputable distance away, ... far beyond the reach of Mortal Time" (616)

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Asgard is ... "far beyond the conventional boundaries of Reality" (616)

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Asgard is ... "a [b]distant Dimension" ... or "another Plane of Reality" (either way, outside 616)

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Asgard is ... "an extra-Dimensional Realm" (therefore outside 616)

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Asgard is ... separated from 616 by "Dimensional Barriers" (no different than any other universe)

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Asgard is ... "Far beyond mortal man's understanding of Time and Space" (616) ...

"Beyond even his wildest dreams of Reality" (616)

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You mentioned the "Rainbow Bridge" ... but with out that "Bridge," Asgard has no access to the 616 universe:

The "Bridge" is an inter-dimensional passage way/portal that traverses "an infinite void" to reach 616:

Bifrost by-passes Space and Time to reach 616 and vice-versa. (another space-time is another universe)
Thor (mjolnir able to dimension hop) still had difficulty reaching Asgard from 616 when the Bridge was broken:

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Btw, all the Pantheons are located in realms outside 616, from Olympus to Ancient Egypt,
and they themselves are separate from each other as well,
in some cases, by infinite universes, as silly as it sounds. [/B]

http://i46.tinypic.com/534kgh.jpg

It has been shown again in events like Annihilation where negative zone meets with positive universe.

Asgard is a pocket universe associated with 616 universe. Nothing more.

Are the Thor fans saying that Asgard transcends the Marvel Multiverse?

Originally posted by abhilegend

Lulz @ Asgard not having boundaries.

Asgard is a pocket universe associated with 616 universe. Nothing more.

You quoted my entire post
and didn't take a sec to realize it was proving how Asgard is outside 616. (nothing to do with boundaries) 😬

... and I did prove it, with out doubt.

celeyhyga17 provided evidence Asgard-Space is now an infinite universe, I saw it myself, so I agreed.

You don't like that, take it up with him.

Thor himself does not necessarily exist in the here or now. And Im assuming she means he cant be manipulated on a molecular level ( by her anyways) because he is not really there. Which means every one of his losses was really an avatar...

Originally posted by panthergod
Are the Thor fans saying that Asgard transcends the Marvel Multiverse?

In what sense is anyone saying that?

Posting scans and pointing out whats on them is what we're doing.

Originally posted by ShadowFyre
Thor himself does not necessarily exist in the here or now. And Im assuming she means he cant be manipulated on a molecular level ( by her anyways) because he is not really there. Which means every one of his losses was really an avatar...