Dooku vs. Maul

Originally posted by Marco1907
Still lowballing Darth Maul I see ? This is why I left this forum.... 😮‍💨

Do you believe this guy ? This guy actually says that Darth Maul is not a Sith Lord... I mean how can you lowball him more than this ?

YouTube video

YouTube video

It proves that because of Mace Windu's obviously wrong assumption on their partnership ? Lol, yes it is. Not to mention how Mace manage to discover their power level while he obviously fail to capture Maul there despite the fact Aayla Secura was helping.

Obviously Mace would think that because Dooku has more power than Maul as a leader of the CIS, while Maul has the smaller function such as Shadow Collective, how Maul can be the master in this ? Maul himself asked to Dooku that he should become his apprentice, it seems that their power isn't so far someone wise person like Maul is trying to take Dooku as a new apprentice.

And same author says Maul beats Dooku 7 / 10. What happened that did you forget that part ?

Darth Thor says I don't know Star Wars and yet the guy who wrote a canon piece agrees with me. **** yes. I love being right. Maul wins.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
How is that hard to swallow?

He's Talzin's son, and with 22ish years(not counting the time he spent as a deranged spider) he can already at least compete with Dooku in combat.

I don't quite see how that's hard to swallow.

I mean in force power not dueling skill. In the force I've never looked at it that way.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Still lowballing Darth Maul I see ? This is why I left this forum.... 😮‍💨

Do you believe this guy ? This guy actually says that Darth Maul is not a Sith Lord... I mean how can you lowball him more than this ?

YouTube video

YouTube video

It proves that because of Mace Windu's obviously wrong assumption on their partnership ? Lol, yes it is. Not to mention how Mace manage to discover their power level while he obviously fail to capture Maul there despite the fact Aayla Secura was helping.

Obviously Mace would think that because Dooku has more power than Maul as a leader of the CIS, while Maul has the smaller function such as Shadow Collective, how Maul can be the master in this ? Maul himself asked to Dooku that he should become his apprentice, it seems that their power isn't so far someone wise person like Maul is trying to take Dooku as a new apprentice.

And same author says Maul beats Dooku 7 / 10. What happened that did you forget that part ?

Well the question does clearly state how many do you think. Think means opinion. Dooku's feats are far better than Maul's. If the author says his force powers are greater than Maul's and then the feats back it up, it sticks. This guy had an opinion about all out duels. So really Maul beating Dooku 7/10 or even 6/10 is laughable. Dooku beats Maul about that or even 8/10 as proven by feats and everything else really.

Originally posted by quanchi112
So emperor Sidious was lying and the guy who wrote son of dathomir stated maul wins as I have always stated. 😂

Darth Thor says I don't know Star Wars and yet the guy who wrote a canon piece agrees with me. **** yes. I love being right. Maul wins.

Look a little closer Quan. The text clearly says its all his opinion? You do know what an opinion is right? 😂 Maul is below Dooku and always has been.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Still lowballing Darth Maul I see ? This is why I left this forum.... 😮‍💨

That's a shame. I kinda missed you bro.

Originally posted by Marco1907
Obviously Mace would think that because Dooku has more power than Maul as a leader of the CIS, while Maul has the smaller function such as Shadow Collective, how Maul can be the master in this ? Maul himself asked to Dooku that he should become his apprentice, it seems that their power isn't so far someone wise person like Maul is trying to take Dooku as a new apprentice.

Doubtful. Because that's not how Sith Master Apprenticeships work.

It's not about who has the bigger army, but whose more Powerful in the Force.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Well the question does clearly state how many do you think. Think means opinion.

He specifically stated it's just his opinion, and not canon. He also outright said Maul's not as Powerful in the Force as Dooku, but thinks he would win due to willpower.

Marco that was a nice try. I'm serious that was actually good. Better than Quan ever could have assembled for Maul. I give you props dood.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Marco that was a nice try. I'm serious that was actually good. Better than Quan ever could have assembled for Maul. I give you props dood.

Oh yeah I even said the 2/3 votes were too small for Maul. Which was a testament to the ridiculous case Quanchi was putting up for him.

"BUT PALPATINE SAYS HE'S A RIVAL" 😂

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Oh yeah I even said the 2/3 votes were too small for Maul. Which was a testament to the ridiculous case Quanchi was putting up for him.

"BUT PALPATINE SAYS HE'S A RIVAL" 😂

😂 😂 😂 💃

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Look a little closer Quan. The text clearly says its all his opinion? You do know what an opinion is right? 😂 Maul is below Dooku and always has been.

Originally posted by quanchi112
And his opinion backs my own. He handled canon Star Wars so it carries weight. All you fools out there who are wrong just bask in my glory. I know Star Wars. You and Darth Thor just fake it.

It's weight, but it's not fact, it's not official, it's not a deciding factor. You know what you want to know. Now you're just mad that your proof is just someone's opinion.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's weight, but it's not fact, it's not official, it's not a deciding factor. You know what you want to know. Now you're just mad that your proof is just someone's opinion.

I see ILS's worst nightmare has returned.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Its you Star Wars fans who act like opinions are all that matters and I throw it back in your face. Maul is superior to Dooku just as I have always said.

I've actually never used opinions as facts, because all they are just opinions. That's why just because one person says something you can't take it at face value. All depends on who says it and the context. Here the author says maul beating Dooku is his own opinion, showing its not meant to be taken as fact. Other cases Lucas or Filoni say things and not only are there words more factual(however some still opinion) it's proven by the feats and accolades of other characters. So really there is nothing that puts maul above Dooku. However there are plenty of things that put Dooku above.

1. Christopher Lee himself says in the AOTC commentary that Dooku is the most skilled lightsaber Duelsit in the galaxy

2. Dooku lasted longer agaisnt Yoda longer than Maul did agaisnt Sidious 1v1

3. Maul can barely handle Kenobi, while Dooku can handle Kenobi and Anakin at the same time.

4. Dooku's force powers are demonstrated to be more powerful

5. Dooku's lightsaber skills are more refined and he has better feats than Maul.

6. Dooku has compensated for the weakensses of his style, and this is shown by his angles with Anakin and savage.

7. He knows all 7 styles making him more versatile

8. Overall better feats

9. More experience

10. Smarter.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I've actually never used opinions as facts, because all they are just opinions. That's why just because one person says something you can't take it at face value. All depends on who says it and the context. Here the author says maul beating Dooku is his own opinion, showing its not meant to be taken as fact. Other cases Lucas or Filoni say things and not only are there words more factual(however some still opinion) it's proven by the feats and accolades of other characters. So really there is nothing that puts maul above Dooku. However there are plenty of things that put Dooku above.

1. Christopher Lee himself says in the AOTC commentary that Dooku is the most skilled lightsaber Duelsit in the galaxy

2. Dooku lasted longer agaisnt Yoda longer than Maul did agaisnt Sidious 1v1

3. Maul can barely handle Kenobi, while Dooku can handle Kenobi and Anakin at the same time.

4. Dooku's force powers are demonstrated to be more powerful

5. Dooku's lightsaber skills are more refined and he has better feats than Maul.

6. Dooku has compensated for the weakensses of his style, and this is shown by his angles with Anakin and savage.

7. He knows all 7 styles making him more versatile

8. Overall better feats

9. More experience

10. Smarter.

1. He's wrong.

2. Sidious beat Yoda.

3. Dooku lost and it's abc logic.

4. I agree but that won't matter since it comes down to sabers.

5. Untrue.

6. Untrue.

7. Doesn't make him more effective.

8. Untrue.

9. Also older and a geriatric.

10. Untrue. He was Sidious' puppet and went to his death like a true lackey.

lol Marco.

Originally posted by Trocity
lol Marco.

Originally posted by quanchi112
1. He's wrong.

2. Sidious beat Yoda.

3. Dooku lost and it's abc logic.

4. I agree but that won't matter since it comes down to sabers.

5. Untrue.

6. Untrue.

7. Doesn't make him more effective.

8. Untrue.

9. Also older and a geriatric.

10. Untrue. He was Sidious' puppet and went to his death like a true lackey.

So you concede opinions are opinions. They don't hold much weight without feats to back it up. Also he could have meant that as Dooku was the most refined duelist in the galaxy. This could very well be true seeing his style is an elegant one me at to be the most refined.

2) Yoda disarmed him.

3. Dooku actually held them off while Maul was pushed on hai backfoot agaisnt both an injured Kenobi, and when he and a 2v1 advantage. Don't ignore ABC here in this case. Dooku can handle Kenobi and Anakin, maul can barely handle Kenobi.

4) Based on? This could just as well be decided by their force powers. Sense Dooku is just as good, most likely better Duelsit, if he sees he's not getting anywhere or maul starts to gain the edge, Dooku will use his force powers so he won't lose.

5) Based On?

6) Based On? He was able to deflect the aggressive strikes of the two, and even disamr both of them and defeat them.

7) yes it does. Being more versatile gives you more option in combat. He knows the weakness and strenghts of all the styles, and Maul's completely aggressive style is bound to ahve many holes that Dooku's precise style can penetrate.

8) Based on? What feats does maul have to compete agaisnt Dooku?

9) Doesn't have anything to do with the point stated. Also Dooku was stated to be healthier than men have his age, and has beaten several combatants who aren't human and younger and also had an age advantage and species advantage over him. Sora Bulq and Opress. Then Anakin and Obi boy younger and in better physical shape, able to beat Windu. Your case has no merits.

10) Based On? Dooku didn't let a padawan jump up and bisect him. 😂

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So you concede opinions are opinions. They don't hold much weight without feats to back it up. Also he could have meant that as Dooku was the most refined duelist in the galaxy. This could very well be true seeing his style is an elegant one me at to be the most refined.

2) Yoda disarmed him.

3. Dooku actually held them off while Maul was pushed on hai backfoot agaisnt both an injured Kenobi, and when he and a 2v1 advantage. Don't ignore ABC here in this case. Dooku can handle Kenobi and Anakin, maul can barely handle Kenobi.

4) Based on? This could just as well be decided by their force powers. Sense Dooku is just as good, most likely better Duelsit, if he sees he's not getting anywhere or maul starts to gain the edge, Dooku will use his force powers so he won't lose.

5) Based On?

6) Based On? He was able to deflect the aggressive strikes of the two, and even disamr both of them and defeat them.

7) yes it does. Being more versatile gives you more option in combat. He knows the weakness and strenghts of all the styles, and Maul's completely aggressive style is bound to ahve many holes that Dooku's precise style can penetrate.

8) Based on? What feats does maul have to compete agaisnt Dooku?

9) Doesn't have anything to do with the point stated. Also Dooku was stated to be healthier than men have his age, and has beaten several combatants who aren't human and younger and also had an age advantage and species advantage over him. Sora Bulq and Opress. Then Anakin and Obi boy younger and in better physical shape, able to beat Windu. Your case has no merits.

10) Based On? Dooku didn't let a padawan jump up and bisect him. 😂

2) Yoda still lost.

3) Anakin killed him. Maul defeated Qui and Kenobi skill wise. Abc logic.

4) That is your opinion which makes no sense. Baseless claim.

5) reality.

6) Anakin killed him and Opress was never anything that special.

7) Anakin got beat by Kenobi and yet he beat Dooku. Maul beats Dooku.

8). I have answered this too many times.

9). He's older and slower. Vos made him look awful. I'm right yet again.

10). Dooku is dead whereas Maul isn't. Hondo captured Dooku without a fight. What a loser.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I never said they decided the outcomes but this one carries weight since he's handled both characters. Maul wins.

2) Yoda still lost.

3) Anakin killed him. Maul defeated Qui and Kenobi skill wise. Abc logic.

4) That is your opinion which makes no sense. Baseless claim.

5) reality.

6) Anakin killed him and Opress was never anything that special.

7) Anakin got beat by Kenobi and yet he beat Dooku. Maul beats Dooku.

8). I have answered this too many times.

9). He's older and slower. Vos made him look awful. I'm right yet again.

10). Dooku is dead whereas Maul isn't. Hondo captured Dooku without a fight. What a loser.

1) Guess what Christopher Lee Actaully WAS COUNT DOOKU. His statements on his character hold more weight than the author of this story. It's his opinion and it shall remain as such since maul has no feats to compete.

2). Concession accepted.

3) Anakin >Qui Gon and this is the superior form of Kenobi so Dooku fought the better pair.

4) No it's not. Dooku and Maul are fighting with their sabers. If Dooku sees he's in trouble, or maul is gaining any sort of edge he will turn this to a force duel. This is proven by this https://youtu.be/kSO1SjHQfCA 0:18-0:49 and 1:16-1:20 he turns it into a force fight sense he is obviously becoming overwhelmed.

5) That's not an answer. This is a fictional universe with fictional characters. There is no reality. Prove that maul has better saber feats or concede.

6) After how many tries? 😂

7) Based On? Maul couldn't beat Obi, and Maul isn't Anakin level so not sure how this helps your claim.

8) no you haven't. You've just said he's physically better which Dooku has already shown he can defend and win agaisnt.

9) Older yes. Slower hell no. Dooku has shown greater speeds than Maul, and is described as faster than Kenobi who is own maul level.

10) At least Dooku went down by someone who was better than him, and by a Jedi council keener instead of some padawan. Maul is a big loser who just couldn't find a home. He and Ventress should hook up.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
1) Guess what Christopher Lee Actaully WAS COUNT DOOKU. His statements on his character hold more weight than the author of this story. It's his opinion and it shall remain as such since maul has no feats to compete.

2). Concession accepted.

3) Anakin >Qui Gon and this is the superior form of Kenobi so Dooku fought the better pair.

4) No it's not. Dooku and Maul are fighting with their sabers. If Dooku sees he's in trouble, or maul is gaining any sort of edge he will turn this to a force duel. This is proven by this https://youtu.be/kSO1SjHQfCA 0:18-0:49 and 1:16-1:20 he turns it into a force fight sense he is obviously becoming overwhelmed.

5) That's not an answer. This is a fictional universe with fictional characters. There is no reality. Prove that maul has better saber feats or concede.

6) After how many tries? 😂

7) Based On? Maul couldn't beat Obi, and Maul isn't Anakin level so not sure how this helps your claim.

8) no you haven't. You've just said he's physically better which Dooku has already shown he can defend and win agaisnt.

9) Older yes. Slower hell no. Dooku has shown greater speeds than Maul, and is described as faster than Kenobi who is own maul level.

10) At least Dooku went down by someone who was better than him, and by a Jedi council keener instead of some padawan. Maul is a big loser who just couldn't find a home. He and Ventress should hook up.

2). Irony

3). Abc logic and one on one Anakin crushed him.

4). Abc logic fail.

5). Windu, Sidious, pre vizsla, and superior speed.

6). Anakin is no Maul but he did kill weakling Dooku.

7). Maul has defeated Kenobi and you lie.

8). Faster, stronger, more aggressive.

9). Vos showed off how slow Dooku is. Canon.

10). Maui isn't dead Dooku is. Weak.