Dooku vs. Maul

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This thread honestly gave me Typhoid.

Originally posted by McP
Man, the way how do you living is nothing that I would care for. I don't care at all. I just said to you, that that's pintless for you to answer me, becasue I'm not even interested in reading your answers. That's my last response for you, do what you want.

Dooku outmanuvered them in 2v1 fight. He overhelmed them in saberlock, which thrown them off-balance and let him to kick/break their Force-guards. He had easier time againt them both at once, then against only Anakin, who was boosted by his anger. Kenobi wasn't much of a threat for Count Dooku.

He was more skilled and used better timing to executive the maneuver. That's all. Anakin then waxed him. Kenobi uses a defensive style whereas maul uses an offensive one similar to Anakin's in rots.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually the actor does have some say in their characters skill set in some sort of way. Enough to where Lee was able to go on a commentary and say Dooku was the greatest Duelsit in the galaxy. This writer had a quota to fill. He hasn't given any evidence any way for maul beating Dooku.

3) So the facts that once Dooku changed it to a force duel when he's getting overwhelmed. I agree. Concession accepted.

4) Apparently so since I can actually use it to get to logical conclusions while you can't. Concession accepted here aswell.

5) So you destroy your own point sinc here in this point I had no mention of Dooku while you did. So with that Sidious choking Dooku is irrelevant. Concession accepted.

6) Nah. When the stunt guy says it, it's pretty much the established fact. If you go to any poster here, there going to say he's a 9 and Obi is an 8. That's just the fact. The writer explicitly stated it was his opinion. See the difference?

7) After being injured and thrown around and after guess what, kicking him around and knocking him about. He was then off balanced so he was fighting pretty equally.

8) That's not proof. That's your own interpretation which isn't proof. I can show you showings where Dooku moves faster, but that's my own interpretation which isn't fact. You need actual proof. Your interpretation isn't fact so not proof.

9) Kenobi had a number of factors to help him in that battle. Also where wasn't Kenobi keeping up with Maul. You need to see the episode where Kenobi is spinning circles around the brothers, kicking maul and savage, and cuts off savages arm.

10) Lucas says he was faking so it doesn't matter what you think. It was all apart of his plan. Still waiting on the proof for that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Writer decides what happens the actor doesn't, kid.

3). Speculation. We do know what did happen and the facts won't change.

4). Common sense isn't common in you. That's the problem, kid.

5). Yoda did better but he lost as well. Saying what Dooku did is irrelevant.

6). No, that's just his opinion just as the writer of dathomir has his own opinion. Not a fact, kid.

7). In the episode. Watch it again, noob. Maul is better.

8). His movements compared to Dooku's.

9). Based on ? Kenobi kept up just fine with Anakin unlike with Maul.

10). Feigning after stating he'd kill Windu. He needed to beg to get anakin to feel sympathy and manipulate him. Maul crushes the yes man.

You keep repeating yourself so here. You can't refute anything.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually the actor does have some say in their characters skill set in some sort of way. Enough to where Lee was able to go on a commentary and say Dooku was the greatest Duelsit in the galaxy. This writer had a quota to fill. He hasn't given any evidence any way for maul beating Dooku.

3) So the facts that once Dooku changed it to a force duel when he's getting overwhelmed. I agree. Concession accepted.

4) Apparently so since I can actually use it to get to logical conclusions while you can't. Concession accepted here aswell.

5) So you destroy your own point sinc here in this point I had no mention of Dooku while you did. So with that Sidious choking Dooku is irrelevant. Concession accepted.

6) Nah. When the stunt guy says it, it's pretty much the established fact. If you go to any poster here, there going to say he's a 9 and Obi is an 8. That's just the fact. The writer explicitly stated it was his opinion. See the difference?

7) After being injured and thrown around and after guess what, kicking him around and knocking him about. He was then off balanced so he was fighting pretty equally.

8) That's not proof. That's your own interpretation which isn't proof. I can show you showings where Dooku moves faster, but that's my own interpretation which isn't fact. You need actual proof. Your interpretation isn't fact so not proof.

9) Kenobi had a number of factors to help him in that battle. Also where wasn't Kenobi keeping up with Maul. You need to see the episode where Kenobi is spinning circles around the brothers, kicking maul and savage, and cuts off savages arm.

10) Lucas says he was faking so it doesn't matter what you think. It was all apart of his plan. Still waiting on the proof for that.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You keep repeating yourself so here. You can't refute anything.

It is you who can't refute anything.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I already addressed this. You can't refute it.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It is you who can't refute anything.
Irony.

Originally posted by quanchi112
I already addressed this. You can't refute it.

You addressed it with claims and rants backed with no proof.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
You addressed it with claims and rants backed with no proof.
False, you failed to address my points.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Actually the actor does have some say in their characters skill set in some sort of way. Enough to where Lee was able to go on a commentary and say Dooku was the greatest Duelsit in the galaxy. This writer had a quota to fill. He hasn't given any evidence any way for maul beating Dooku.

3) So the facts that once Dooku changed it to a force duel when he's getting overwhelmed. I agree. Concession accepted.

4) Apparently so since I can actually use it to get to logical conclusions while you can't. Concession accepted here aswell.

5) So you destroy your own point sinc here in this point I had no mention of Dooku while you did. So with that Sidious choking Dooku is irrelevant. Concession accepted.

6) Nah. When the stunt guy says it, it's pretty much the established fact. If you go to any poster here, there going to say he's a 9 and Obi is an 8. That's just the fact. The writer explicitly stated it was his opinion. See the difference?

7) After being injured and thrown around and after guess what, kicking him around and knocking him about. He was then off balanced so he was fighting pretty equally.

8) That's not proof. That's your own interpretation which isn't proof. I can show you showings where Dooku moves faster, but that's my own interpretation which isn't fact. You need actual proof. Your interpretation isn't fact so not proof.

9) Kenobi had a number of factors to help him in that battle. Also where wasn't Kenobi keeping up with Maul. You need to see the episode where Kenobi is spinning circles around the brothers, kicking maul and savage, and cuts off savages arm.

10) Lucas says he was faking so it doesn't matter what you think. It was all apart of his plan. Still waiting on the proof for that.

I have responded. It's your turn.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I have responded. It's your turn.
You just reworded your post but didn't address mine.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You just reworded your post but didn't address mine.

It's the same post just reposted. Same exact points, just reposted.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
It's the same post just reposted. Same exact points, just reposted.
You didn't address mine but just repeated your own previous points. You are incapable of rebutting my points.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't address mine but just repeated your own previous points. You are incapable of rebutting my points.

Have you met redpill yet?

Originally posted by quanchi112
You didn't address mine but just repeated your own previous points. You are incapable of rebutting my points.

I went last. It's your turn. We don't go twice in a row. I responded then you said I didn't respond. Now it's your turn to respond. I already have, you're just trolling now so the next response from you needs to be a rebuttal to the points I sent, or it's an automatic concession.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
I went last. It's your turn. We don't go twice in a row. I responded then you said I didn't respond. Now it's your turn to respond. I already have, you're just trolling now so the next response from you needs to be a rebuttal to the points I sent, or it's an automatic concession.
You failed to address my points and until you do so its a concession. Maul wins as he's faster, more powerful with a lightsaber, and younger. Dooku even called just his weaker brother Savage as a threat to Dooku let alone his more powerful brother Maul.

Originally posted by TheNuisanceBird
Have you met redpill yet?
Does not ring a bell.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You failed to address my points and until you do so its a concession. Maul wins as he's faster, more powerful with a lightsaber, and younger. Dooku even called just his weaker brother Savage as a threat to Dooku let alone his more powerful brother Maul.

So you concede since you didn't do as I told you to.

You have failed to show he's faster while I've proved it. There are quotes that Dooku moved faster than Kenobi who is on Maul level, and Maul wasn't able to use his speed to take Obi wan down. Dooku is on a greater level than Kenobi. Where are those feats saying Maul is better with a saber? Saying someone is stronger and faster isn't proving or giving evidence. That's just a claim. Where is the proof that is actually fact and not your own interpretation? Younger doesn't mean anything. Dooku has beaten opponents younger than he.

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
So you concede since you didn't do as I told you to.

You have failed to show he's faster while I've proved it. There are quotes that Dooku moved faster than Kenobi who is on Maul level, and Maul wasn't able to use his speed to take Obi wan down. Dooku is on a greater level than Kenobi. Where are those feats saying Maul is better with a saber? Saying someone is stronger and faster isn't proving or giving evidence. That's just a claim. Where is the proof that is actually fact and not your own interpretation? Younger doesn't mean anything. Dooku has beaten opponents younger than he.

You failed to properly rebut my points so I reposted them. You concede.

False. Vos also proved how slow Dooku is canonically speaking. Dooku also says Kenobi is more impressive than Anakin in the clone wars series but ends up getting killed by Anakin. Maul has always bested Kenobi unlike Anakin. I cited evidence to support my claims. Sidious values youth as does any intelligent being who can actually think.

Maul isn't just younger but he's also incredibly skilled and demonstrates speed in phantom menace.

Originally posted by quanchi112
You failed to properly rebut my points so I reposted them. You concede.

False. Vos also proved how slow Dooku is canonically speaking. Dooku also says Kenobi is more impressive than Anakin in the clone wars series but ends up getting killed by Anakin. Maul has always bested Kenobi unlike Anakin. I cited evidence to support my claims. Sidious values youth as does any intelligent being who can actually think.

Maul isn't just younger but he's also incredibly skilled and demonstrates speed in phantom menace.

I did rebut them. Go back and look. You're probably confused since I quoted yours then had to quote it again sees I pressed a wrong button.

Everything I said is also canocially proven. Jaunt because you bring in a fact do sent negate mine. Also have you even read Dark Disciple? If you have then you would know that it only proves how fast Vos was, not how slow Dooku was. You do understand he was getting beat by Anakin so of course he would say that to cover himself. He is a proud man. Umm no. Kenobi cut maul in half once. Kenobi 1, Maul 0. Then they fought again while Kenobi was at a disadvantage however still a win. 1 and 1. Then they fought again and really more of a tie since when it was 1 on 1 Kenobi held his own. So really pretty much even. Sidious valued the potential, not the actual power since there wasn't just a lot. If he valued actual power he would have kept Dooku over Anakin or tired to convert another Jedi. He was looking for potential which Anakin had a lot of.

Again Dooku has taken on youth. Dooku vs Obi wan. Dooku vs Anakin. Dooku vs Ventress. Dooku vs savage. Dooku vs Vos. Dooku vs Ventress and the nightsisters while drugged. Those are just canon. Dooku vs Bulq and Tholme. Dooku vs the night brothers. Dooku vs Windu. All of these opponents he has fought and have beaten.some with ease. And guess what they were younger than him. You make it seem like Dooku has no skill.