MID-HERALD TOURNAMENT DISCUSSION

Started by psycho gundam76 pages

Originally posted by psycho gundam
Swap as many times as you want before that but your last post before noon Saturday will be your final team
Not that much time left. If you guys want more time I can extend it

Id suggest making last till noon Sunday. Three day draft shouldn't be a problem, and it seems a few people are unclear about a lot of the rules.

That's fair.

Noon Sunday it is

Originally posted by psycho gundam
[b]About Vulcan:

Did LoB draft him during the time drafts were officially being counted? Or did Scoobles? Reserving can't be allowed out of fairness

BAH!

I drafted Absorbing Man AT THE SAME DAMN TIME as Blair Wind.

It was a tie and in the event of a tie, THE CHAMPION, always wins. Everyone knows that!

Now, knowing THE TREACHERY that has been brought against me I chose Vulcan just in case you engaged in BRAZEN corruption.

Now, I think it's time you tell BW that Creel is mine and have him choose again!

Originally posted by psycho gundam
[b]"Amping Rules: Disallowed. Materials that aid a power (i.e. Jeffries/adamantium) are allowed. Power amping is not (i.e. The Ray + Kara)

Note: Amping is a state of empowerment fueled by some source source, that increases a characters physical prowess or ability."

As ID seemed to have envisioned, amping the power of a character by using another as a battery of sorts to take them to new heights is out but a material that has beneficial properties isn't banned from making your character better.

Naturally your amalgams will be unavoidably well into high herald but try and keep them in that bracket. It's not a perfect science

About Vulcan:

Did LoB draft him during the time drafts were officially being counted? Or did Scoobles? Reserving can't be allowed out of fairness [/B]

Does amping then include weakness removal?

So using my Aquaman/Plastic Man example, Aquaman would now no longer have a dehydration weakness.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does amping then include weakness removal?

So using my Aquaman/Plastic Man example, Aquaman would now no longer have a dehydration weakness.

They dump alcohol on Curry and he curls up like fried saltfish!

Also regarding amping, if the material somehow gives you powers you couldn't have without it, is that ok?

The Jeffries thing was always iffy to me, if you can't amp powers with other powers; then you shouldn't really be allowed to amp your powers in any way... that seemed to be the spirit of "no-amping" in the first place.

EG, I can't use Ray + Kara because he's like a mini star which would give her a serious power boost - but if I draft a character who happens to carry a mini star (can't think of one right now) it's suddenly ok to amp Kara's power? simply because the amp is now from equipment and not from other powers.

Personally, I think either all amping should be allowed, or all amping should be disallowed.

............

Drafted characters should have the powers they always had and no more, regardless of what their amalgamated buddies bring to the table.

or

Anything goes.

Lob, I had a counter that told me the seconds - you may have posted during the same minute, but I posted first within that minute. Sorry.

Well, BW was obv first.

It may have been the same minute, but not the same second.

So if a character can consciously tap into his power source to amp his power up like Captain Atom, is that banned too?

K, I'm drafting:

Beta Ray Bill - Mid Herald
http://www.comicvine.com/beta-ray-bill/4005-6139/

Magik - Low Herald
http://www.comicvine.com/magik/4005-8303/

Invisible Boy - Low Herald
http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Heralds_of_Galactus_(Earth-616)

I couldn't find a proper bio for Johnny Storm's Invisible Boy identity, but here's a respect thread that somebody on Reddit made.
https://www.reddit.com/r/respectthreads/comments/2nwssn/respect_nova_the_invisible_boy_heralds_of_galactus/

I'm going to go write a midterm, so I'll tune in later in case there are questions.

Also, just looking over the rules....

TP: High Herald is allowed. Eh?

And:

Banned: Power Unlock. Going forward No form of amping, or power unlock will be allowed.

So no amping whatsoever is allowed? That kinda screws Absorbing Man and others, no?

Also, does Decter know he has two mid heralds plus a low on his team?

Psycho, you may need to reorganize the rules to either fit your new tournament, or stick to exactly what has been written but clarify IDs rulings further (and to be noted by everyone else, while not drafted, Creel was allowable in that tournament)

Psycho, you know what I'm planning. If anything should change just please let me know. I'll try and keep up to date, but my characters are the ones people are attacking most so any changes will affect me I guess.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, does Decter know he has two mid heralds plus a low on his team?
I'm about to switch Magneto out

It said on the list that he was low herald, but since he's considered mid I will switch him out

Not sure where the amping discussion has led. But Blair's general strategy is - I hope - able to be deduced, though I may have some assistance bc I've thought of the same strat myself. It falls under the Jeffries rule, so it should technically be ok. But of course there's always grey area. Absorbing Man in general falls under the Jeffries rule. So even if you don't know the details, the overall principle should be evident.

I'm not in the business of airing strategies in public, though. So if PG or another organizer wants to PM me for clarification, feel free.

How about I allow ALL AMPING? Stay under trans and you can do whatever you want as long as you can prove it in a debate. None of the "bringing a realm onto someone's domepiece" business, though.

What do you all think?

Might have to make it under Skyfather or else some current drafts are moot. I see a couple amps just at a glance that wreck High Herald.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Does amping then include weakness removal?

So using my Aquaman/Plastic Man example, Aquaman would now no longer have a dehydration weakness.

It's an amalgam of both characters like how wolverine's bones are bone tissue and Adamantium that still act like bone but act like Adamantium just the same, but are both better?

Idunno. The weakness would be easy to argue that it's vastly reduced if not gone

I would rather have the rules stay the same as they are now.

But if everyone else wants to allow amping then I'm still game