Mjolnir vs. Enchantment

Started by riv667210 pages
Originally posted by Smurph
He gets tired.
Originally posted by h1a8
How? He has limitless strength and can lift with any amount of strength instantly, even if it is infinite.

He lifts everything instantly, thus no cardio.

To my knowledge, the 616 hammer is batting 1000 when it comes to the unworthy attempting to lift it (unliving beings and peers of Odin are exempt)

Originally posted by psycho gundam
To my knowledge, the 616 hammer is batting 1000 when it comes to the unworthy attempting to lift it (unliving beings and peers of Odin are exempt)
So what do you thinks happens? Mjolnir breaks or it gets lifted in one piece?

Honestly? Your fictional lifter breaks before the hammer does, or is lifted.
Breaks, or just gives up and walks away.

Originally posted by h1a8
So what do you thinks happens? Mjolnir breaks or it gets lifted in one piece?

The problem here isn't the question, it's your limited concept of what constitutes an answer.

Think of it like this:

Is a cat ten times smarter than you, or is it twenty times smarter than you?

Pick one.

You are only allowing for choices between two possible answers that may both be flawed.

But could the cat lift the hammer?

The enchantment gets broken. Its not infallible after all.

Stormbreaker is better.

Originally posted by h1a8
So what do you thinks happens? Mjolnir breaks or it gets lifted in one piece?
Odin and Gaea lifted the hammer but they are a sky-father that gave it it's power and an elder goddess. She magically raised the hammer off the ground at that.

I think the Serpent did as well but I don't much recall that arc

Hammer breaks sems more plausible.

IIRC Hammer has been broken more times than the worthy spell.

In the realm of "comics" magic is harder to explain though

Originally posted by psycho gundam
I think the Serpent did as well but I don't much recall that arc

Well, Fear Itself was a waste of time, so nobody can blame you. He definitely shattered Cap's shield, don't remember if he stopped/lifted Mjolnir.

Bor caught and wielded the hammer. But he couldn't replicate that feat under Bendis, either because Bendis couldn't force himself to read his only appearance before using the character (classic Bendis) or because Bor was undead.

The lifter's hand slips and he falls on his butt, he then runs away crying like a little baby.

Imo, the enchantments greater.

We already know what happens with an unworthy being with limitless strength. Hulk.

Should the God of Strength decide to lift it, the hammer would first begin to crack and eventually, once broken enough, the enchantment would dissipate from the hammer.

This depends.

Just recently Odin himself couldn't lift the hammer.

BUT....

Zeus caught the hammer for a second or two before it slipped his grasp and returned to Thor's hand. Thor was amazed that Zeus was even able to accomplish that.

Mephisto caught the hammer, slagged it, recreated it, then flung it back at Thor. This was in his realm though.

Molecule Man ripped the hammer from Thor's hand and atomized it.

Mjonir's enchantment is magical,pjysical strength won't do squat...ur gonna have to have greater magical powers than those which enchant mjonir to ignore its rule

Originally posted by Scoobless
Neither. The enchantment holds while protecting the hammer in the process. The limitless strength person may rip his/her own fingers off while trying though.
Originally posted by h1a8
The person with limitless strength has infinite durability to support his strength. So which happens first?

I'm going to assume he is immortal mnow too.

So nothing happens.... forever. The strongest, toughest being to ever exist simply stays in one spot forever, never accomplishing a single task. He becomes something of a tourist attraction at first, until the people get bored of his statue-like performance, over the years he is simply forgotten as the world grows around him, covered by vines and moss, he eventually fades from memory entirely.

Then one day, thousand of years from now, he will accidentally be uncovered by a more advanced civilisation. They will study him, use his DNA to create a virtually unstoppable army and go on to conquer the universe; all the while Odin and Loki are watching on, chortling away at the foolishness of mortals, wondering why Thor never reclamied his most valued posession from this stupid, stupid man.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Imo, the enchantments greater.

We already know what happens with an unworthy being with limitless strength. Hulk.


In this case, a Hulk with no feats.

Infinite Strength is above the Skyfather tier, so a being would lift it, attached to a Planet, he would lift the Planet with it, otherwise he would lift it from the ground without the Hammer breaking. The idea that an being with infinite strength would fail is lulzworthy.