Mjolnir vs. Enchantment

Started by riv667210 pages
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
Infinite Strength is above the Skyfather tier, so a being would lift it, attached to a Planet, he would lift the Planet with it, otherwise he would lift it from the ground without the Hammer breaking. The idea that an being with infinite strength would fail is lulzworthy.

Hulk is above Skyfather.
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Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
The idea that an being with infinite strength would fail is lulzworthy.

Strength has nothing to do with lifting the hammer though. The enchantment is infinite in its own right. Look at it this way. When Excalibur was lodged in the stone no amount of force could move it. It had nothing to do with strength. People are thinking wayyyy to into this

Originally posted by riv6672
In this case, a Hulk with no feats.

It was Doc Green, who carver has many feats for, lol.

But yes, I echo Sin's sentiment. You all are approaching this like Stark would, applying laws of logic and physics to a magical object.

Holy no limits fallacy in this thread! 😂

This happens...

Or this happens...

http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/9/94164/3535780-indestructible+hulk6+by+walt+simonson.jpg

Or it budge...

😉

On the real though this is the perfect scan for this thread...

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
It was Doc Green, who carver has many feats for, lol.

But yes, I echo Sin's sentiment. You all are approaching this like Stark would, applying laws of logic and physics to a magical object.


I dont believe i'm overthinking this; OP generic character gets bored and leaves.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm going to assume he is immortal mnow too.

So nothing happens.... forever. The strongest, toughest being to ever exist simply stays in one spot forever, never accomplishing a single task. He becomes something of a tourist attraction at first, until the people get bored of his statue-like performance, over the years he is simply forgotten as the world grows around him, covered by vines and moss, he eventually fades from memory entirely.

Then one day, thousand of years from now, he will accidentally be uncovered by a more advanced civilisation. They will study him, use his DNA to create a virtually unstoppable army and go on to conquer the universe; all the while Odin and Loki are watching on, chortling away at the foolishness of mortals, wondering why Thor never reclamied his most valued posession from this stupid, stupid man.

So you believe that Mjolnir has infinite durability? Because that's the only way your scenario works. If you don't then either Mjolnir breaks the 1st nanosecond or it is lifted the 1st nanosecond. The lifter has infinite strength.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Strength has nothing to do with lifting the hammer though. The enchantment is infinite in its own right. Look at it this way. When Excalibur was lodged in the stone no amount of force could move it. It had nothing to do with strength. People are thinking wayyyy to into this
Assuming the enchantment is infinite (which this Must be proven) then certainly the durability of the hammer is not as its been broken many times. So your stance suggests that Mjolnir breaks before getting lifted.

Only thing that can over come hammer enchantment is a being with equal or greater magical enchantment. You could be SA Superman, Valdius, OWAW Superman, Trion Juggernaut etc unless you are sky father or above with powerful magical abilities and enchantment your picking up the hammer

Originally posted by the Darkone
Only thing that can over come hammer enchantment is a being with equal or greater magical enchantment. You could be SA Superman, Valdius, OWAW Superman, Trion Juggernaut etc unless you are sky father or above with powerful magical abilities and enchantment your picking up the hammer
The hammer doesn't have infinite durability. It might break before succumbing to the enchantment. That's if you believe the enchantment is stronger.

Originally posted by h1a8
So you believe that Mjolnir has infinite durability? Because that's the only way your scenario works. If you don't then either Mjolnir breaks the 1st nanosecond or it is lifted the 1st nanosecond. The lifter has infinite strength.

I believe that the magical "logic" of the enchantment is that any attempt to lift Mjolnir by unworthy hands has zero effect on the hammer, therefore durability doesn't even come into play, it's as if nothing is happening from Mjonir's perspective. To the outside world it appears that great force is being brought to bear onto an inanimate object, but that simply isn't the case.

I think the scans posted by Zop are the best explaination for this scenario.

He posted 3 magical beings with enough power to over ride the enchantment and then one NON-magical being with enought power over riding the enchantment.

Because this is a non magic based being it seems that if you have enough power you will over ride the enchantment before the mallet breaks.

So I have to change my previous stance on the topic.

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm going to assume he is immortal mnow too.

So nothing happens.... forever. The strongest, toughest being to ever exist simply stays in one spot forever, never accomplishing a single task. He becomes something of a tourist attraction at first, until the people get bored of his statue-like performance, over the years he is simply forgotten as the world grows around him, covered by vines and moss, he eventually fades from memory entirely.

Then one day, thousand of years from now, he will accidentally be uncovered by a more advanced civilisation. They will study him, use his DNA to create a virtually unstoppable army and go on to conquer the universe; all the while Odin and Loki are watching on, chortling away at the foolishness of mortals, wondering why Thor never reclamied his most valued posession from this stupid, stupid man.

Lmao.

Originally posted by h1a8
Assuming the enchantment is infinite (which this Must be proven) then certainly the durability of the hammer is not as its been broken many times. So your stance suggests that Mjolnir breaks before getting lifted.

No. And your train of thought seems to be too one dimensional to grasp my example. But i will try to explain one more time for shits and giggles. In the Sword and the Stone ( a myth telling of Authur becoming king) there was a saying that "whosoever pulls this sword from the stone is the rightful king of England". Men from all over and of great strength came to move the sword. All failed. Not because they werent strong enough but because "they" were not meant to move it. Mjolnir is just this times one million. If you're using solely strength to budge an object that requires a different method to lift it you're essentially failing. You're trying to force us to prove it's infinitely durable when durability has nothing to do with it. Your derailing the topic by arguing points that have zero bearing. Unless you have a scan of someone making it budge on strength alone i fail to see the purpose of this thread other than your normal day to day posts that only manage to ruffle feathers...

Originally posted by Scoobless
I'm going to assume he is immortal mnow too.

So nothing happens.... forever. The strongest, toughest being to ever exist simply stays in one spot forever, never accomplishing a single task. He becomes something of a tourist attraction at first, until the people get bored of his statue-like performance, over the years he is simply forgotten as the world grows around him, covered by vines and moss, he eventually fades from memory entirely.

Then one day, thousand of years from now, he will accidentally be uncovered by a more advanced civilisation. They will study him, use his DNA to create a virtually unstoppable army and go on to conquer the universe; all the while Odin and Loki are watching on, chortling away at the foolishness of mortals, wondering why Thor never reclamied his most valued posession from this stupid, stupid man.

This has vote for best post ever made.

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Strength has nothing to do with lifting the hammer though. The enchantment is infinite in its own right. Look at it this way. When Excalibur was lodged in the stone no amount of force could move it. It had nothing to do with strength. People are thinking wayyyy to into this

What the ****?

Originally posted by abhilegend
What the ****?

Problem?

I thought Thor moved exacliber.?

Originally posted by carver9
I thought Thor moved exacliber.?

Not that Excalibur carver...the one from myth. The real shit..