Originally posted by Darth ThorSo you just destroyed your own point as you acknowledged his army was a threat. You said Kenobi was a greater rival ignoring the definition of your own word along with your own logic in this admission.
No they don't. Maul was pretty insignificant to Sidious once he lost his army. He didn't even bother to chase Maul when he was running away.Talzin was the real Rival Sidious was worried about.
Talzin knew Maul had greater significance. 🙂
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you just destroyed your own point as you acknowledged his army was a threat. You said Kenobi was a greater rival ignoring the definition of your own word along with your own logic in this admission.Talzin knew Maul had greater significance. 🙂
You speak so much nonsense. Maul was a Rival due to taking on his own Sith Apprentice and building up an army. Once those 2 things were gone he wasn't even worth Sidious's attention accept to get to the real threat- Talzin.
The Jedi Unlike the Sith Were a brotherhood. The Jedi and the Sith were rivals in the Force and Kenobi was a big part of the Council leading the whole Brotherhood of Jedi.
So yes Kenobi was more of a threat to Sidious than Maul. In fact Kenobi set about Sidious's destruction by training Luke. Maul had squat all to do with Sidious's destruction. Maul was simply too afraid of Sidious.
Originally posted by Darth ThorSo you admit Kenobi never had either of those things so he wasn't a rival.
You speak so much nonsense. Maul was a Rival due to taking on his own Sith Apprentice and building up an army. Once those 2 things were gone he wasn't even worth Sidious's attention accept to get to the real threat- Talzin.The Jedi Unlike the Sith Were a brotherhood. The Jedi and the Sith were rivals in the Force and Kenobi was a big part of the Council leading the whole Brotherhood of Jedi.
So yes Kenobi was more of a threat to Sidious than Maul. In fact Kenobi set about Sidious's destruction by training Luke. Maul had squat all to do with Sidious's destruction. Maul was simply too afraid of Sidious.
Talzin also knew Maul was more important than she was despite her superior power. Power isn't everything.
Kenobi wasn't a rival to Sidious. At no point did he ever refer to him as one so I have Sheev's own words and you have your own conjecture.
Yoda trained Luke. Luke went off against advice. Vader saved his life. You really try changing around events to suit your conjecture.
Originally posted by quanchi112
So you admit Kenobi never had either of those things so he wasn't a rival.
He didn't need them. He had his brotherhood. There's a reason Sidious focused all his efforts on the Jedi. Not on Maul.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Talzin also knew Maul was more important than she was despite her superior power. Power isn't everything.
Sidious doesn't care.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Kenobi wasn't a rival to Sidious. At no point did he ever refer to him as one so I have Sheev's own words and you have your own conjecture.
"That includes your friend Obi-Wan Kenobi" 😂
He specifically mentions him.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Yoda trained Luke. Luke went off against advice. Vader saved his life. You really try changing around events to suit your conjecture.
I knew you haven't seen Star Wars.
Obi-Wan began Luke's training, and protected him on Tatooine for years before that. Even his Ghost went on to give Luke lessons. Vader even says "Obi-Wan has taught you well."
Go back to a franchise you can be bothered watching like NUTrek 😂
Originally posted by Darth ThorThe Jedi were his sworn ememies but not his rivals as they weren't after the same things. Their ideals are opposite.
He didn't need them. He had his brotherhood. There's a reason Sidious focused all his efforts on the Jedi. Not on Maul.Sidious doesn't care.
"That includes your friend Obi-Wan Kenobi" 😂
He specifically mentions him.
I knew you haven't seen Star Wars.
Obi-Wan began Luke's training, and protected him on Tatooine for years before that. Even his Ghost went on to give Luke lessons. Vader even says "Obi-Wan has taught you well."
Go back to a franchise you can be bothered watching like NUTrek 😂
My point was never about Sidious it was about Talzin. Sidious also died because he was moronic about Luke.
To have him killed. He never says he's a rival. Having a person killed doesn't make them a rival.
Yoda gave him his competent Jedi training post Luke death. Yoda trained him despite Vader's words. Vader isn't all knowing and didn't even know what he'd do until he turned in the heat of the moment.
Luke went against the advice of Yoda and Kenobi to face Vader in esb.