Hero cop saves room full of students

Originally posted by KingD19
Was she officially charged with a crime?

Or is she just a criminal because the cop caught her on a really bad day and decided to make it worse by using his apparently nearly superhuman strength to thrash her about like a gator with a gazelle in it's mouth?

Okay so now it's just this girl was caught on a "really bad day" and that is why she was so obnoxious and gave two shits about authority?

Please dude, people who act like this are most definitely repeat offenders. It's more then just a "bad day". This girl mouthed off or refused to obey a guy called OFFICER F'ING SLAM.

That is less having a bad day and more being a rotten spoiled brat who feels she can do whatever the hell she wants because..reasons. Now she gets her 15 minutes of fame and the victim card to play on top of all that. Why do I get the strange feeling none of that is going to change her for the better?

victim blaming for the win.

lick them jackboots.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
so sick of false equivalencies. it's become all the rage.

Just like being a victim these days is all the rage. You also say false equivalency but..no, not at all. Both sides were at fault, period. That NEVER automatically means both sides share equal blame.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
victim blaming for the win.

lick them jackboots.

Like I said, BOTH are to blame. See, this is exactly why I make sure to point out both sides are at fault. People get this tunnel vision when it comes to cops and want to ignore everything else if a cop behaves badly.

No see..we can totally multi-task. Or at least I sure as hell can.

nah. you're just grossly inflating one act and disgustingly conflating the other in order to make this look like "both sides are equally to blame".

easily dismissable horseshit. 👆

Uh did we enter the Twilight Zone? BOTH SIDES ARE TO BLAME!

Even Bardock acknowledged this wasn't 100% on the cop.

Attitudes like yours are exactly why this shit needs to be said.

keep repeating that over and over. it's still horseshit.

I'm sorry if you feel reality is horseshit, but oh well.

We can pretend otherwise if you need. So okay, student was a little angel and the cop was Satan in disguise.

Sur, He's a known troll, and looking to get a rise out of you.

Shhh, student=angel, cop=devil. She was probably texting God on her cell phone or something, totally understandable.

did you report me again, TI? baby

Originally posted by Surtur
Shhh, student=angel, cop=devil. She was probably texting God on her cell phone or something, totally understandable.

Trolls gonna troll.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
did you report me again, TI? baby

I don't see the problem. You refuse to accept the reality of the situation so I painted you a nice little picture in simplistic black and white terms. Just figured it would be easier for you to accept.

Originally posted by Surtur
Uh did we enter the Twilight Zone? BOTH SIDES ARE TO BLAME!

Even Bardock acknowledged this wasn't 100% on the cop.

Attitudes like yours are exactly why this shit needs to be said.

Blame is not a zero-sum game

Originally posted by Surtur
Just like being a victim these days is all the rage. You also say false equivalency but..no, not at all. Both sides were at fault, period. That NEVER automatically means both sides share equal blame.

Like I said, BOTH are to blame. See, this is exactly why I make sure to point out both sides are at fault. People get this tunnel vision when it comes to cops and want to ignore everything else if a cop behaves badly.

No see..we can totally multi-task. Or at least I sure as hell can.

For instance if there is a person, Jacob, laying on a bench in a park. Someone else, Jerry comes up to that person and tells them to move because they want to sit. Jacob refuses and may even call Jerry an A-hole for telling him to move.

Finally Jerry gets mad pulls out a gun and shoots Jacob so that he can sit down.

You can say that both people involved in the situation are to blame. You could say Jacob should have just gotten off the bench and nothing would have happened. You could say it was wrong for Jacob to call Jerry and A-Hole. You would be correct on all these statements. All these actions would have kept Jacob from getting shot. Yet clearly one person is more to blame for the escalation and ultimate outcome of this encounter. That person being Jerry for shooting Jacob over trivial insults and refusal to move.

The same things applies in this situation. Was the girl being rude yes. Was she being distracting yes. Did her actions obviously irritate the officer yes. Did she deserve to flung to the ground and pulled across the floor no. Is she to blame for the officer taking those actions no. That was his choice and he being the adult and authority figure in this scenario should have kept a more level head.

The fact he lost his temper and assaulted a student is the reason he lost his job.

The girl was certainly at fault for not listening. However, it is a false equivalency because both parties shouldn't be held to the same standard.

As an adult in a position of power/authority, the cop and school administration should be held to a higher standard of accountability. There were many other ways to handle the situation prior to becoming physical. Even barring that point, the amount of physicality used was clearly excessive. The guy crossed a line and being fired was the right step, especially since this wasn't his first infraction.

I agree, children are being coddled more than previous generations and it is detrimental not only to society at large but the children suffer on a more personal level. However, adults in the position of the cop and the teachers/administration, need to exercise more empathy. apparently, this particular child has been dealing with a lot of emotional baggage and wasn't just a spoiled/entitled teen. Perhaps seeking to open a dialogue or engage her in a less confrontational way would've served better. of course, that's hindsight but I think it's something worth mentioning still.

Originally posted by Bardock42
Blame is not a zero-sum game

Well again a person can acknowledge both sides share blame(like you yourself did) without it meaning they hold both sides equally responsible.

Originally posted by 80sBaby
The girl was certainly at fault for not listening. However, it is a false equivalency because both parties shouldn't be held to the same standard.

As an adult in a position of power/authority, the cop and school administration should be held to a higher standard of accountability. There were many other ways to handle the situation prior to becoming physical. Even barring that point, the amount of physicality used was clearly excessive. The guy crossed a line and being fired was the right step, especially since this wasn't his first infraction.

I agree, children are being coddled more than previous generations and it is detrimental not only to society at large but the children suffer on a more personal level. However, adults in the position of the cop and the teachers/administration, need to exercise more empathy. apparently, this particular child has been dealing with a lot of emotional baggage and wasn't just a spoiled/entitled teen. Perhaps seeking to open a dialogue or engage her in a less confrontational way would've served better. of course, that's hindsight but I think it's something worth mentioning still.

But it's not false equivalency because I never said she was being held to the same standards as the cop. Nobody said what they did was equally wrong. But it is utterly silly to try to act like both sides were not at fault.

You throw the word equivalency around even though I never said they shared equal blame. I simply stated both sides are at fault, which is really about as debatable as 1+1 equaling 2.

it's exactly as i said, but you were too busy beating the strawman to notice.

Originally posted by Bashar Teg
nah. you're just grossly inflating one act and disgustingly conflating the other in order to make this look like "both sides are equally to blame".

Trolls gonna troll.

Originally posted by Surtur
Well again a person can acknowledge both sides share blame(like you yourself did) without it meaning they hold both sides equally responsible.

Yes, but the cop is 100% responsible for his actions, nothing that happened reduces his blame.