5 dimensional Imps Or the NEW Beyonders

Pre retcon beyonder was stated to be millions of times more poweruful than the marvel MU and more powerful than all the abstracts including Tribunal put together....he is far above a freaking 5d imp,tribunal held 2 megaverses in his palm,that's higher than whatever mxy has done,and if I am reading right,its erasing and recreating the DC multiverse,chaos war herc remade the marvel Multiverse even....and iirc he has command over the spatial dimensions 2.-6.,I don't put mxy above the tribunal,let alone the pre retcon beyonder....this guy was the toaa and personification of his realm which made the MU look like a drop of water in an ocean

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Originally posted by Genii96
Pre retcon beyonder was stated to be millions of times more poweruful than the marvel MU and more powerful than all the abstracts including Tribunal put together....he is far above a freaking 5d imp,tribunal held 2 megaverses in his palm,that's higher than whatever mxy has done,and if I am reading right,its erasing and recreating the DC multiverse,chaos war herc remade the marvel Multiverse even....and iirc he has command over the spatial dimensions 2.-6.,I don't put mxy above the tribunal,let alone the pre retcon beyonder....this guy was the toaa and personification of his realm which made the MU look like a drop of water in an ocean

Statements, that's all you have to fall back on.

I can claim i can run 2 miles in 10 min, but until i do it, it doesn't carry any weight.

Fact is, Beyonder's best feats pales in comparison to Mxy. No if or buts.

Originally posted by SquallX

Fact is, Beyonder's best feats pales in comparison to Mxy. No if or buts.

I'm not sure if you know:

Beyonder created a Reality that when compared to the whole of Marvel, was like an ocean to a drop of water.
And Beyonder didn't just create this Reality ... he was this reality.

The whole of Marvel was the infinite Multiverse.

Sit back and ponder on that for a moment ... or google how many drops are in the ocean.

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You want to think Mxy's feat is better, cool, but to state Beyonder's "pales in comparison" is outlandish.

Mxy destroyed and re-created all of the DCU, which is infinite. With a snap of his fingers.

Originally posted by Genii96
Pre retcon beyonder was stated to be millions of times more poweruful than the marvel MU and more powerful than all the abstracts including Tribunal put together....he is far above a freaking 5d imp,tribunal held 2 megaverses in his palm,that's higher than whatever mxy has done,and if I am reading right,its erasing and recreating the DC multiverse,chaos war herc remade the marvel Multiverse even....and iirc he has command over the spatial dimensions 2.-6.,I don't put mxy above the tribunal,let alone the pre retcon beyonder....this guy was the toaa and personification of his realm which made the MU look like a drop of water in an ocean

LT held two Megaverses (or two fictional Marvel companies) in his palm once Marvel became an Omniverse and LT even more powerful. Back then, when the so called pre-rect Beyonder was above LT, Marvel was a Multiverse and just a fragment compared to the Ominverse (with two Megaverses) that it is currently.

So, Multiverses have infinite Universes and Megaverses have all the Multiverses and everything beyond, iow also the Beyonders realm. LT once was below the Beyonder but later held the Marvel Megaverse (with beyonders realm, as a part of it's company) in his hand AND on top of this another Marvel Megaverse that copies another comic line. This feat alone shows that he became, with the help of TOAA more powerful then Beyonder ever was. Now 3 Ivory Kings defeated the Omniversal LT which is above the stuff pre rect Beyonder did.

Mxy on the other hand erased the totality of DC Multiverse and everything there is and recreated it with a snap during a time when it already was an Omniverse. This is so far above pre-rect Beyonder that I would give LT and the 3 Ivory Kings better odds against him.

Originally posted by Zack M

Mxy destroyed and re-created all of the DCU, which is infinite. With a snap of his fingers.

Beyonder created a Reality that was septillions of times bigger than all of Marvel, which was infinite.

Beyonder also embodied said creation.

Mxy was about to destroy the 5th dimension, which is said to be bigger than the DCU, IIRC.

Originally posted by Mr Master
I disagree.

I'm not sure if you know:

Beyonder created a Reality that when compared to the whole of Marvel, was like an ocean to a drop of water.
And Beyonder didn't just create this Reality ... he was this reality.

The whole of Marvel was the infinite Multiverse.

Sit back and ponder on that for a moment ... or google how many drops are in the ocean.

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You want to think Mxy's feat is better, cool, but to state Beyonder's "pales in comparison" is outlandish.

How long did it take Beyonder to create said realm? Mxy recreated everything after he destroyed it with a snap of his fingers.

Mxy destroyed everything in the DCU including concepts like hyper time, Galan posted the feats in the page prior to this.

It doesn't really matter how many drops of water there are in an ocean, when you struggle to bring Death back to life. Best ex. A body building is bigger than an arm wrestler, but 8/10, there actually weaker than said arm wrestler.

Feat wise, Mxy minus omnipotent beings have the best on panel feat.

To make things worse, Mxy knows that everything that's happening in the comics because he's able to break the 4th world.

Originally posted by SquallX

How long did it take Beyonder to create said realm?
Mxy recreated everything after he destroyed it with a snap of his fingers.

At the end of SW though, Beyonder's essence imitated Marvel's creation event which included life.

Originally posted by SquallX

It doesn't really matter how many drops of water there are in an ocean, when you struggle to bring Death back to life. Best ex. A body building is bigger than an arm wrestler, but 8/10, there actually weaker than said arm wrestler.

Also, even under these limited conditions, Beyonder brought back Death fairly easily.

Originally posted by SquallX

Feat wise, Mxy minus omnipotent beings have the best on panel feat.

Originally posted by SquallX

To make things worse, Mxy knows that everything that's happening in the comics because he's able to break the 4th world.

Originally posted by Genii96
if I am reading right

Found your problem 👆

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Originally posted by Mr Master
It didn't take him any time. Beyonder was the embodiment of the Beyond Realm.
He always was. He had no beginning. He was like God before Genesis.

At the end of SW though, Beyonder's essence imitated Marvel's creation event which included life.

Oh right, Beyonder with his self-imposed limitations to fit in.

Also, even under these limited conditions, Beyonder brought back Death fairly easily.

Cool. But I disagree.

This means nothing. As there are a host of cats that break the 4th wall.
Also, Stan Lee bowed to the Beyonder, so there's that for comedic 4th wall shenanigans.

Originally posted by Genii96
Pre retcon beyonder was stated to be millions of times more poweruful than the marvel MU and more powerful than all the abstracts including Tribunal put together....he is far above a freaking 5d imp,tribunal held 2 megaverses in his palm,that's higher than whatever mxy has done,and if I am reading right,its erasing and recreating the DC multiverse,chaos war herc remade the marvel Multiverse even....and iirc he has command over the spatial dimensions 2.-6.,I don't put mxy above the tribunal,let alone the pre retcon beyonder....this guy was the toaa and personification of his realm which made the MU look like a drop of water in an ocean

Originally posted by Mr Master
I know, bad ass.

Beyonder created a Reality that was septillions of times bigger than all of Marvel, which was infinite.

Beyonder also embodied said creation.

Mxy destroyed DCU which is an omniverse as stated on panel.

Omniverse>>>>>a tiny universe.

BTW, here is what John Byrne said about Shooter's Beyonder.

This came about, btw, basically as a result of Shooter shirking his
responsibilities.
When he gave himself the "plum" of SECRET WARS II (we won't get into a
discussion of the dubious ethics of the EiC assigning himself to a
guaranteed moneymaker) he dodged every question of just what the
Beyonder was capable of doing by saying "Whatever you need for your
story!"
At one point, frustrated, I stormed out of his office declaring "Oh, great!!
He's Mr. Mxyzptlk!"
(Typically, "anything you need" became "he can't do that" when Shooter
started seeing the actual issues.)

http://m.byrnerobotics.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=29616

mmm

Originally posted by abhilegend

Just made a universe? Not impressive then.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Septillions? Not big enough.

Mxy destroyed DCU which is an omniverse as stated on panel.

Originally posted by abhilegend

BTW, here is what John Byrne said about Shooter's Beyonder.

... ok, ok, I'll agree with ya on that one.

Although I didn't need Byrne to tell me Beyonder's power was ridiculous like Mxy's. (less cartoonish imo though)

Originally posted by Mr Master
facepalm Haven't had the urge to use that in a while. Damn yur good at doing what yu do.

Yeah, I am good at you making look like a fool.

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😐 ... So Beyonder could've just as easily erased and re-created DC like Mxy did? Cool link. 👆

... ok, ok, I'll agree with ya on that one.

Although I didn't need Byrne to tell me Beyonder's power was ridiculous like Mxy's. (less cartoonish imo though)

Byrne Mxy wasn't even that powerful. It was retconned as him never using his full power.

Beyonder is as powerful as Mxy if he doesn't uses his full power.

Thanks for playing.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Yeah, I am good at you making look like a fool.

Originally posted by abhilegend

Byrne Mxy wasn't even that powerful. It was retconned as him never using his full power.

Beyonder is as powerful as Mxy if he doesn't uses his full power.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Mxy destroyed DCU which is an omniverse as stated on panel.

Originally posted by Mr Master
Whatever makes you wet. Believe it. Like "faith."

forgetu ... Thanx for entertaining me.

Originally posted by Galan007
This also isn't factoring in Mxy destroying/recreating higher-dimensional realms, like the 4th World, which is infinitely larger than the prime DCU. 👆