Originally posted by Galan007Well, Lucifer had absolutely no problem manipulating the sum total of Michael's energy
... Which literally IS the power of God... .
I was only noting a Marvel fact. In order to give those that would suggest a winner some reference.
btw. For the onlookers, that's what the IG was in Jim Starlin's eyes, ... God.
In his Marvel Age interview he reveals such ...
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"The Infinity Gauntlet, a story that dealt with the idea of Thanos becoming God."
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Jim Starlin himself adds:
"I've done the good side of God and the bad side of God.
I've gone as far as I can with the Infinity Gauntlet" ...
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I also asked, then how the hell was the LT even a match for the IG?
Because the LT came as a direct representative of TOAA's power:
"I represent forces that dwarf even your might ...
... my authority comes from on high."
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... which by default made LT above God:
... "The Living Tribunal, the servant of the ONE who is above even Gods."
Originally posted by Galan007
Well, Lucifer had absolutely no problem manipulating the sum total of Michael's energy... Which literally IS the power of God... Which literally IS as infinite as energy can get.Raphael: "Michael is a vessel for the Divine Power. If he dies --if that vessel cracks-- the worlds will be scoured clean of life. There will be nothing left.":
http://i.imgur.com/1kUKe5j.jpgMichael: "There is a power within me. The Dunamis Demiurgos. God's power. When I die, it will pour out of me and overwhelm everything that exists.":
http://i.imgur.com/Yr4a38e.jpgGod: "Michael Demiurgos --spark that expands forever-- ocean of power with no shore.":
http://i.imgur.com/tjg1mkV.jpgHere we see Michael actually put that power to work...
"Examine your own substance. Or that of anything you see --stars, stones, water, air-- look close enough and you will see Michael's will working there."
"That is impossible! What you suggest, only God can do!"
"He is the Demiurge. God chose him as his second. Now, as God's mark fades and creation falters, Michael renews it moment by moment. He writes God's name afresh on every atom of existence.":
http://i.imgur.com/biVHYbS.jpgAll of that being said, Lucifer effortlessly warped the totality of Michael's Demiurgic power --the literal/actual power of God-- into a physical creation of his own:
...He was also completely unfazed by energies of that magnitude(truly infinite energies) detonating in his face.So yeah, in a PIS-free environment the IG isn't harming Lucifer unless he wants it to. This certainly doesn't degrade the IG, however. After all, Lucifer possesses infinite will--God's will(literally.) That's how he can do... What he does.
Great write up 👆
One additional note: This is the closest we ever saw Lucifer to being fully powered, but even here he's still missing a couple feathers. Earlier he willingly depowered himself and after he was weakened by God's departure.
Originally posted by Galan007
Lucifer manipulated the totality of Michael's energy --the literal/actual power of God-- to his whim. The IG isn't hurting a PIS-free Lucifer unless he wants it to.
By the same token, Lucy could do absolutely nothing to Thanos with the IG unless he wanted him to.
This fight comes down to one thing for me. Lucy has far more low showings in vs. battles than Thanos... as well as Lucy hasn't beaten the amount of cosmics Thanos has in vs. battles. To me, that tips the scales in favor of Thanos.
Originally posted by Prof. T.C McAbe
👆 he has been doing it for years though, croped scans, out of context (and wrongly understood) quotes, spamming different scans of different timelines to "enhance" a word etc. Just to "enforce" his biased cosmic hierarchy upon others. Old Rabbits can't drop bad habits, or so.Ignore function is the way to go.
At least we have True Debaters on kmc like Brother Galan, Brother Juntai or Brother Board Walker
Galan is one of the best. Juntai is good as well. Even having Boardwalker in the same breathe as Galan or even Juntai is hilarious. I'd be like adding you in there with them.
Originally posted by Juntai
Lucifer would annihilate him.But the most likely scenario probably doesn't even involve force.
He just smiles and convinces Thanos to give up the gauntlet, and let himself be killed.
Do tell me, who are the most powerful people he's beaten in vs. fight? Once we establish that.. we'll go into who he's lost to and been unable to beat.
Originally posted by Cogito👆
Great write up 👆One additional note: This is the closest we ever saw Lucifer to being fully powered, but even here he's still missing a couple feathers. Earlier he willingly depowered himself and after he was weakened by God's departure.
A few more tidbits...
Morpheus comments on Lucifer's power:
In fact, Morpheus was terrified of Lucifer when they encountered one another in Hell:
http://i.imgur.com/hH2zU8g.jpg
We know that Death herself has no claim on Lucifer:
http://i.imgur.com/98pbmJV.jpg
A nearly powerless Lucifer also killed Fenris:
http://i.imgur.com/nj6sylJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IiH7plq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/9uHsOib.jpg
And Fenris, like the Endless, was a conceptual being, who literally embodied ruin and destruction:
http://i.imgur.com/XrgUREH.jpg
Ultimately, Lucifer also escaped God's plan:
http://i.imgur.com/ybTHT0f.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/TtCGRIV.jpg
...Which means he subverted Destiny's 'scope' as well
So yeah, it's safe to say that Lucifer was well above the Endless, who are multiversal themselves.
Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
Galan is one of the best. Juntai is good as well. Even having Boardwalker in the same breathe as Galan or even Juntai is hilarious. I'd be like adding you in there with them.
Oh wow, don't worry you are on the level of Quan, there is nothing lower than this, so thanks 😉.
Is it true Magus with an incomplete IG blew up the Multiverse in a battle vs merged Eternity/Infinity?
And then Warlock had to fix that mess when he re-warped reality?
And years later in a GOTG issue,
Dr Strange noticed residual effects across "Time" from the Infinity War
1000+ years in the Future exiting another Universe aka Reality-691?
Anyone? ... Is this true? ... srugdoped
Originally posted by Mr Master
Is it true Magus with an incomplete IG [b]blew up the Multiverse in a battle vs merged Eternity/Infinity?And then Warlock had to fix that mess when he re-warped reality?
And years later in a GOTG issue,
Dr Strange noticed residual effects across "Time" from the Infinity War
1000+ years in the Future exiting another Universe aka Reality-691?Anyone? ... Is this true? ... srugdoped [/B]
Here's the battle between Warlock and Magus /w/ Incomplete IG, from Fantastic Four #370(I know you've seen it, because you've cropped panels from it in the past):
http://i.imgur.com/8ZKRRmz.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/rauUYBY.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/iI8PZOp.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ocy5z37.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UPBSMwq.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/kscdC4V.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fUY5gPR.jpg
But yes, in GotG #33, Strange notes that he can see/sense/feel the residual time-ripples generated from the above scuffle:
http://i.imgur.com/A8Kx5qc.jpg
This is similar(in a sense) to the 'actuality ripple' Thanos generated when he possessed the IG.
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