Is Superman far and away more powerful than Thor and Surfer?

Started by Prof. T.C McAbe13 pages
Originally posted by carver9
Its about fts, right? Superman pushing War World, Benching Earth weights.

What you posted was an Hulk feat though and not nearly abstract in scope, not even Herald level. Stop before this thread gets closed bro.

Also, I can't see Hulk on the title...he's just not powerful enough to be considered.

Originally posted by carver9
I can post at least 3 abstract fts Hulk has had within a 2 to 3 yr period but what's the point? Here is one just for the record...

Hulk also breaks through the castles invulnerable walls when no-one else could: not even BK and he had possession of EXCALIBUR.

Planetary is nice and dandy but insane crap like this is on another level.


Excalibur? He had the ebony blade.

And he never used it on the wall. In fact Hulk used the blade later in the comic to cut through time when he himself could not.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Everything is about feats with you, isn't it...

Not entirely. If it's about position then this thread is pointless because no one has Superman position in either Universe, except maybe Captain America and he isn't close to being as powerful but he does do things outside of his weight class. I honestly thought this was about power level.

Originally posted by abhilegend
Excalibur? He had the ebony blade.

And he never used it on the wall. In fact Hulk used the blade later in the comic to cut through time when he himself could not.

You knew what I meant.

Wait, he clearly tells us he failed to breach the wall. Why would he use his fist to do this when he has the Ebony Blade in his possession?

Hulk used the Ebony Blade to cut through time. That's different than punching an indestructible wall. You're trying too hard.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, I can't see Hulk on the title...he's just not powerful enough to be considered.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Also, I can't see Hulk on the title...he's just not powerful enough to be considered.

Carv, post some Surfer/Thor scans.

Also, hurry up with your BZ. I'm anxiously awaiting who I will face after I annihilate LoB.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Carv, post some Surfer/Thor scans.

Also, hurry up with your BZ. I'm anxiously awaiting who I will face after I annihilate LoB.

Lol...you don't even believe what you typed. You know Hulk tier/power level just as much as I do.

Scoobs took forever to post inside of our BZ. I know he is going through some things and I truly understand but it's going to take a bit for me to post because I have to adjust things to counter what he posted today.

Originally posted by carver9
Lol...you don't even believe what you typed. You know Hulk tier/power level just as much as I do.

Be that as it may, Hulk is not in this thread.


Scoobs took forever to post inside of our BZ. I know he is going through some things and I truly understand but it's going to take a bit for me to post because I have to adjust things to counter what he posted today.

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Originally posted by DarkSaint85

Be that as it may, Hulk is not in this thread.


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Celey included him on the first page but since people are against him being in this thread, I'll leave it be.

Originally posted by carver9
You knew what I meant.

Wait, he clearly tells us he failed to breach the wall. Why would he use his fist to do this when he has the Ebony Blade in his possession?

Hulk used the Ebony Blade to cut through time. That's different than punching an indestructible wall. You're trying too hard.


Do I?

And where did he try to use the blade? Black Knight didn't have it at the time he was banished.

Hulk couldn't punch his way out, so he used the blade. That's a direct example.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rdGqePAK5ug/Up3aLFRHSyI/AAAAAAAA45I/NslCKllGBR4/s1600/-013+copy.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PEynB7LR0J0/Up3aLhqDV1I/AAAAAAAA45Q/gpQoPshd7gc/s1600/-014+copy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ChxHPoJlnys/Up3aLyi8vCI/AAAAAAAA45s/LfVVNELz9Gk/s1600/-015+copy.jpg

Originally posted by abhilegend
Do I?

And where did he try to use the blade? Black Knight didn't have it at the time he was banished.

Hulk couldn't punch his way out, so he used the blade. That's a direct example.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-rdGqePAK5ug/Up3aLFRHSyI/AAAAAAAA45I/NslCKllGBR4/s1600/-013+copy.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-PEynB7LR0J0/Up3aLhqDV1I/AAAAAAAA45Q/gpQoPshd7gc/s1600/-014+copy.jpg
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ChxHPoJlnys/Up3aLyi8vCI/AAAAAAAA45s/LfVVNELz9Gk/s1600/-015+copy.jpg

http://www.turboimagehost.com/p/16636621/Indestructible_Hulk_13_010.jpg.html

I'm seeing the blade on him. Are you blind? It even mentions in this scan that they said the walls were impenetrable and BK was right there (with the blade in his possession). They tried to breach the wall and failed. You thinking BK kicked at the wall makes you, how can I say it, not so smart. I'm done discussing this topic with you because you're stubborn. Anyways, planetary is good but Hulk fts piss on planetary showings. I can derail this thread with his fts but people don't want him in this thread so again, I'm leaving him out. Anymore comments YOU say in regards to this showing will get ignored bro and of course Hulk can't punch time. Who said he could?

Originally posted by abhilegend
"How can he be more powerful when Surfer beats him in the first Pico second via a kryptonite+red sun blast? Or just drain him?
He's already faster because he flew so fast that one time, more durable because Tenebrous and Aegis and Superman's HV doesn't works on him because he goes through stars. He is also almost as strong. Just wait while he amps to Unilord level and beats even Sundipped superman in h2h. "

10/10 times of course."

/surfer fan

Ask any true surfer fan like JBL or Darthgoober who challenged entire forum to convince him about Superman taking a single win against Surfer.

Nobody argued about that though.

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Sigh, i just saw this...Yeah JBL does get a little extreme, but as far as darthgoober goes I'm pretty sure his official stance for years has been that Surfer wins 8-9) out of 10 against Supes. And the reason no one argued is just because no one wanted to debate against darth... he was arguably in a league all his own as a debater ESPECIALLY when it came to Surfer or Captain America(I'm pretty sure he also challenged the whole forum to a Cap vs Spidey debate and no one accepted that either). You should understand that better than anyone, just look at the meltdown he caused in his last battlezone with a single post lol . Not that it's anything to be embarrassed about, that's just how darth rolls.

Goober is the best at BZs.

Originally posted by carver9
Sigh, i just saw this...Yeah JBL does get a little extreme, but as far as darthgoober goes I'm pretty sure his official stance for years has been that Surfer wins 8-9) out of 10 against Supes. And the reason no one argued is just because no one wanted to debate against darth... he was arguably in a league all his own as a debater ESPECIALLY when it came to Surfer or Captain America(I'm pretty sure he also challenged the whole forum to a Cap vs Spidey debate and no one accepted that either). You should understand that better than anyone, just look at the meltdown he caused in his last battlezone with a single post lol . Not that it's anything to be embarrassed about, that's just how darth rolls.

lol

i may throw up a little.... and i'd have taken on that cap/spidey debate without a second's doubt.

Goober was a great debator, yes. Get off his nuts, Carver.

Anyway, get back on topic guys.

Originally posted by -Pr-
Goober was a great debator, yes. Get off his nuts, Carver.

Anyway, get back on topic guys.

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Originally posted by carver9
as far as darthgoober goes I'm pretty sure his official stance for years has been that Surfer wins 8-9) out of 10 against Supes. And the reason no one argued is just because no one wanted to debate against darth.
The problem in a Surfer/Superman BZ are judges, carver. No matter how unbiased people claim to be, every comic fan has a pronounced opinion on how a battle between those two would play out one way or another--and that would undoubtedly reflect in their verdict to some extent. People can deny this all they want, but it's the truth. On KMC, most people here do tend to favor Surfer going in, so they're already somewhat tainted from the onset. I'd imagine that is what dissuaded those who may have potentially been interested in challenging him. Goober was good, but he wasn't God. srsly

Anyway, because of that preexisting bias(again, it goes both ways), it would be nigh-impossible to get a 100% fair verdict in that match. You'd literally have to get 3-5 people off the street who have never even heard of Superman or Surfer, have them read the BZ, and then give a ruling, in order to get truly unbiased opinions. On a comic forum, however, it's a coin-toss.

Originally posted by Galan007
The problem in a Surfer/Superman BZ are judges, carver. No matter how unbiased people claim to be, every comic fan has a pronounced opinion on how a battle between those two would play out one way or another--and that would undoubtedly reflect in their verdict to some extent. People can deny this all they want, but it's the truth. On KMC, most people here do tend to favor Surfer going in, so they're already somewhat tainted from the onset.

Because of that, it would be nigh-impossible to get a bias-free/100% fair verdict in that match. You'd literally have to get 3-5 people off the street who have never even heard of Superman or Surfer, have them read the BZ, and then give a ruling to get truly unbiased opinions. On a comic forum, however, it's a coin-toss.

I always thought of this and I agree with you 100%.

Superman BROKE Thor in direct combat!

Superman is CLEARLY a tier above Thor!