Originally posted by FinalAnswer
Alright, that still doesn't excuse harassing and disrupting students trying to study for their midterms in a library.
Taking the alleged harassment from a minority out, and just looking at the disruption of the library, actually, the cause does excuse that. Just like other peaceful protests that were a bit bothersome to people, whether that's Ghandi or MLK, were also justified.
It actually doesn't though, those students are paying money for their education, and that money is effectively being wasted by this unnecessary disruption. I don't care what the protest is about, there is a time and a place for that sort of thing, and doing it in a library when students are trying to study is not one of them. You wouldn't advocate staging a protest at a funeral, right?
Also comparing BLM to Martin Luther King lmao.
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
It actually doesn't though, those students are paying money for their education, and that money is effectively being wasted by this unnecessary disruption. I don't care what the protest is about, there is a time and a place for that sort of thing, and doing it in a library when students are trying to study is not one of them. You wouldn't advocate staging a protest at a funeral, right?Also comparing BLM to Martin Luther King lmao.
While we are lol-ing at comparisons, comparing picketing a funeral to disrupting a library ... lol
You are right, these student did potentially lose up to 2 minutes that it would have taken them to leave the library and continue their study somewhere else, and that is an awful, awful thing to happen...but really, the fact that black american teenagers get killed at an alarming rate by police officers is also pretty important....
Originally posted by FinalAnswer
It actually doesn't though, those students are paying money for their education, and that money is effectively being wasted by this unnecessary disruption. I don't care what the protest is about, there is a time and a place for that sort of thing, and doing it in a library when students are trying to study is not one of them. You wouldn't advocate staging a protest at a funeral, right?Also comparing BLM to Martin Luther King lmao.
Yeah, tbh I agree. I mean, the shouting itself, I might have been able to excuse, but literally putting their hands on people and aggravating them doesn't do anything to engender them to people.
And then they'll no doubt turn around and want a safe space, or something.
The whole point of a protest is to garner attention to some cause or issue, it's why successful protest often block traffic, impede with businesses etc for a length of time and sure, if you happen to get stuck in traffic or can't get to your favorite bagel-shop, it can be irritating on a personal level. eg I can't stand when those "Critical Mass" ****ers ride through SF; c***s, every single damned one of them; their cause is hardly as pressing as BLM's.
I bet no one has ever heard of a successful protest that was had in an empty lot with no one around.
Originally posted by Robtard
The whole point of a protest is to garner attention to some cause or issue, it's why successful protest often block traffic, impede with businesses etc for a length of time and sure, if you happen to get stuck in traffic or can't get to your favorite bagel-shop, it can be irritating on a personal level. eg I can't stand when those "Critical Mass" ****ers ride through SF; c***s, every single damned one of them; their cause is hardly as pressing as BLM's.I bet no one has ever heard of a successful protest that was had in an empty lot with no one around.
Here is the thing though, I just conjure up images of a sleazy acting agent telling their problematic star that any publicity is good publicity.
That might work in the entertainment business, but with this? It doesn't help to be obnoxious as all hell. Nobody said protest in an empty lot, but there are ways to do things. This type of behavior isn't going to cause anyone in that library to go "you know what? I didn't think black lives mattered before, but they SURE DO NOW!"
Okay that last sentence was a joke obviously. But on a serious note behaving this way is not going to cause someone to suddenly see their side of things. There are a whole lot of ways to get attention, one would assume people in this movement would not just want attention, they'd want people on their side of the issue. I could spout out a saying about catching flies with honey if that would help.
Originally posted by Surturdude, protesters are almost always obnoxious. i think black lives matter is a dumb group, but acting like an ass is not at all out of the ordinary for protestors in general.
Well I don't see it as well behaved to have obnoxious as all f*ck interruptions and people swearing and being racist at people. Especially when they are upset over racism. Especially when they'd be all up in arms if whites came in calling them filthy blacks. It wasn't just the swearing and being racist, they targeted people wearing symbols of "oppression" including a specific brand of ear plugs.Just out of curiosity, do you feel this group of protesters deserved apologies from staff members of the school?
except in china, of course, where people get shipped off to forced labor camps for staging "silent protests" where they just stand around and let their numbers be shown.
But protesters aren't always obnoxious. I've seen this first hand. I've seen people who protested and instead of blocking traffic they just protested in a place where all the traffic coming through could see their signs, etc.
This behavior would of been far less obnoxious if done outside in the open instead of them storming the campus library.
honestly though my thing with these people is i think they use dramatic phrases like black lives matter because of marketing and they pick the police as the target because it flows well with the narrative of black victimhood. and there is an issue with the police and their interactions with black people that needs to be addressed... but the in the background you can't help but remember that black people are being murdered by the thousands every year in this country and usually not by the police... so where is black lives matter on that issue?
Originally posted by Surturi think protesting is inherently obnoxious. the people in question were probably waving big goofy signs and shouting slogans. that's typical protester behavior. also obnoxious. it's generally kind of hard to get people's attention for a protest without being obnoxious.
But protesters aren't always obnoxious. I've seen this first hand. I've seen people who protested and instead of blocking traffic they just protested in a place where all the traffic coming through could see their signs, etc.This behavior would of been far less obnoxious if done outside in the open instead of them storming the campus library.
not necessarily protesting... i don't think protesting black murders will do anything.
i think though that if this sort of energy were put into a strategy to develop a real plan to tackle the issue of violence and crime in the hood, people could come with ways to contribute something that would be more effective and save more lives than just making a lot of political noise about police brutality
i mean they could even include police brutality as an aspect of one of the issues to focus on... but to say "well, it's easiest to deal with the police violence so that's all we're going to focus on" just seems lazy and half hearted to me.. as if it's not black lives that are important here, but political leverage for the left is.
The people taking the most black lives don't kill black people more because they are black, they kill them more because they happen to be the people they are in conflict with. They don't have a double standard, and would just as readily kill white people if it served their purpose.
Police officers kill people because they are black, that's what can be changed by changing public responses, by pointing out this fact.
Originally posted by Bardock42
The people taking the most black lives don't kill black people more because they are black, they kill them more because they happen to be the people they are in conflict with. They don't have a double standard, and would just as readily kill white people if it served their purpose.Police officers kill people because they are black, that's what can be changed by changing public responses, by pointing out this fact.
And yet if black lives mattered they'd target the communities that take the most black lives.
So really, call it "Police brutality is a real issue" or something. These people shouting "Black lives matter" are hard to take seriously when they only seem to matter if they are killed because they are black.
They don't give a shit about black lives, they give a shit about racism. They give a shit about agendas. They don't give two shits about their own broken down neighborhoods that are more like demilitarized zones then actual neighborhoods.
Originally posted by Surtur
And yet if black lives mattered they'd target the communities that take the most black lives.So really, call it "Police brutality is a real issue" or something. These people shouting "Black lives matter" are hard to take seriously when they only seem to matter if they are killed because they are black.
They don't give a shit about black lives, they give a shit about racism. They give a shit about agendas. They don't give two shits about their own broken down neighborhoods that are more like demilitarized zones then actual neighborhoods.
No, they wouldn't, because like I explained, the methods they use can not work on gangs, but they can, and will, work on police.
No, police brutality is not the issue, police officers valuing black lives less than other lives is the issue, hence "Black Lives Matter", so that police officers realize "Oh right, black lives matter....".
Ridiculous and stupid, you don't give a shit about either topic, you only give a shit about not hearing about the racism issue anymore, and any argument, no matter how godawful and moronic works for you to deflect from it.