But see a lot of people I saw were talking about how it was obnoxious and racist. This is not a thing where any publicity is good publicity, not if you are trying to legitimately change peoples minds.
It's also not like the movement wasn't known to the public or college students prior to this.
It's a great tactic for getting people to discuss the problem. It's piss poor for getting people on your side of the issue.
Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Keep talking about it. It's gotten us real far.
I will, thank you.
I think we are on a good path, racial discrimination is talked about and worked through. Of course that means that there's a lot of discomfort for people, and people who profit from the status quo and want it to stay that way are lashing out, but in the long run I think this will lead to a better, more fair society.
Originally posted by Surtur
But see a lot of people I saw were talking about how it was obnoxious and racist. This is not a thing where any publicity is good publicity, not if you are trying to legitimately change peoples minds.It's also not like the movement wasn't known to the public or college students prior to this.
It's a great tactic for getting people to discuss the problem. It's piss poor for getting people on your side of the issue.
Hmm, like I said, I think there'll always be people that this is extremely uncomfortable for, and they will find this obnoxious and horrible, but when we just look at what BLM does we can see that it is very benign and peaceful. I think the important people to reach aren't really those on either side, not people like me who are already in favour of the idea, or people like you who find it obnoxious, but those that don't usually even think about it, and BLM is very good at getting publicity, imo.
Originally posted by Bardock42
Hmm, like I said, I think there'll always be people that this is extremely uncomfortable for, and they will find this obnoxious and horrible, but when we just look at what BLM does we can see that it is very benign and peaceful. I think the important people to reach aren't really those on either side, not people like me who are already in favour of the idea, or people like you who find it obnoxious, but those that don't usually even think about it, and BLM is very good at getting publicity, imo.
But the thing is what they do is not benign and peaceful, not in the article this topic was made over. You see if you have a group of 150 people and even just 5-10 of those are shouting racist shit at people? That is not peaceful.
You can surely say it's not as extreme as beating people or shooting people, but then it doesn't have to be that extreme to not be a peaceful protest.
Well, we've gone over this many times, like I said I think you are completely overstating the issue. We don't even know if it's 5-10. There's almost nothing to go on in the media. If they actually did it, should they have yelled these things? No, of course not. But compared to most other movements it's an incredibly small issue that is stylised to something gigantic by opponents of the movement.
Originally posted by SurturTo be fair people were saying the same thing about the Sit-Down protests of the Civil War area. Or the Alabama Bus Protests.
But see a lot of people I saw were talking about how it was obnoxious and racist. This is not a thing where any publicity is good publicity, not if you are trying to legitimately change peoples minds.It's also not like the movement wasn't known to the public or college students prior to this.
It's a great tactic for getting people to discuss the problem. It's piss poor for getting people on your side of the issue.
That it was obnoxious, rude, and inconvenient towards people that just wanted to be left alone.
It is kind of what protesting is supposed to do. Inconvenience people to draw light to a potential problem.
Of course not all protested causes are created equal but in this case I think it was alright.
Originally posted by Tattoos N ScarsThat seems a little extreme considering that could potentially cost lives. So I'm not surprised they haven't protested in hospitals as BLM doesn't seem to be violent.
I'm surprised they haven't protested inside hospitals, preventing doctors and nurses from caring for patients.
I still worry about riots breaking out in Chicago over this video. Nothing too bad so far..a few arrests, one guy apparently had a knife and stun gun.
However, they have charged the cop with 1st degree murder. For me this could have negative consequences. As I recall..1st degree murder is premeditated murder, right? So I don't know, it makes you wonder if they charged him with that so he wouldn't be punished? It would be hard to prove this was planned.