BLM mob disrupts students in Dartmouth library

Originally posted by Surtur
I still worry about riots breaking out in Chicago over this video. Nothing too bad so far..a few arrests, one guy apparently had a knife and stun gun.

However, they have charged the cop with 1st degree murder. For me this could have negative consequences. As I recall..1st degree murder is premeditated murder, right? So I don't know, it makes you wonder if they charged him with that so he wouldn't be punished? It would be hard to prove this was planned.

Prosecutors overcharge so the jury will convict on the lesser, actual charge.

Originally posted by Surtur
I still worry about riots breaking out in Chicago over this video. Nothing too bad so far..a few arrests, one guy apparently had a knife and stun gun.

However, they have charged the cop with 1st degree murder. For me this could have negative consequences. As I recall..1st degree murder is premeditated murder, right? So I don't know, it makes you wonder if they charged him with that so he wouldn't be punished? It would be hard to prove this was planned.

It varies from state to state, and I don't know how it is in Illinois, however first-degree murder doesn't necessarily have to be premeditated, it might fit some other more severe characteristic.

That makes sense. Now some people are wondering why the video was kept from the public for a year. Some think it was the cops, some think the mayor suppressed it for a bit to help his career.

Apparently the parents of the teen did not want it released.

Originally posted by Surtur
That makes sense. Now some people are wondering why the video was kept from the public for a year. Some think it was the cops, some think the mayor suppressed it for a bit to help his career.

Apparently the parents of the teen did not want it released.

I think it is as simple as the city already having settled with the family and the family not wanting the video released.

Regardless, the county attorney pushed for its release and the judge in the trial of the officer authorized it, so the right things are happening.

I mean yeah they settled without even any kind of trial or lawsuit, they just gave them 5 million. So obviously the city knew it was bad.

Not sure why it took a year for the guy to be arrested though. He spent the last year still being paid.

Originally posted by Tattoos N Scars
To be with his people. We got project housing and a welfare check waiting for him when he gets here.

J/K Bardock

LOL. Why joke? It's probably true.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think the peaceful protest in library tactic was pretty good though, definitely made people talk about it again.

🙄

No, it was selfish and rude. They gave no thought to anyone but themselves.

Bardock wants to be black.

Originally posted by Bardock42
I think the peaceful protest in library tactic was pretty good though, definitely made people talk about it again.

what i meant though was i doubt this will lead to actual concrete results.... i.e. decreased antagonism between black people and the police

sort of like how the anti israel activists have been very successful at sparking dialogue... and so were the anti iraq war activists.... but nonetheless the situation in israel remains bleak and the iraq war happened anyway.

Originally posted by red g jacks
well if you consider the metric of success to be sparking dialogue/debate, then i'd say this sort of activism is successful and will continue to be very successful

what i meant though was i doubt this will lead to actual concrete results.... i.e. decreased antagonism between black people and the police

sort of like how the anti israel activists have been very successful at sparking dialogue... and so were the anti iraq war activists.... but nonetheless the situation in israel remains bleak and the iraq war happened anyway.

Why do you think the things BLM does can't have positive results but things like the Montgomery Bus Boycott or Civil Rights Marches could? And what can BLM do to have better results in your opinion?

I still think you can protest in a way that doesn't disturb people, but that does get their attention.

For instance I don't know the setup of the library, but what if they had waited outside the exit of the library? People that go in eventually have to come out and they had enough people to cover multiple exits if there were more then one. So you will catch people coming and going.

I just came up with that off the top of my head so I'm sure if people really sat down and gave it some thought they could think of other effective tactics. I also don't know that I'd stage these kind of things on college campuses. I'd do it outside police stations or maybe prisons as well. As well as any other places that might have a connection with law enforcement. I'd also possibly do it near the offices of the local politicians if they aren't doing enough to solve the problems. I'd be trying to bring this to the attention of the people who can do the most to change things.

Originally posted by Surtur
I still think you can protest in a way that doesn't disturb people, but that does get their attention.

For instance I don't know the setup of the library, but what if they had waited outside the exit of the library? People that go in eventually have to come out and they had enough people to cover multiple exits if there were more then one. So you will catch people coming and going.

I just came up with that off the top of my head so I'm sure if people really sat down and gave it some thought they could think of other effective tactics. I also don't know that I'd stage these kind of things on college campuses. I'd do it outside police stations or maybe prisons as well. As well as any other places that might have a connection with law enforcement. I'd also possibly do it near the offices of the local politicians if they aren't doing enough to solve the problems. I'd be trying to bring this to the attention of the people who can do the most to change things.

Yeah, but on the other hand when Black Lives Matter targets politicians like here: http://www.killermovies.com/forums/f11/t616119.html you have this to say

Originally posted by Surtur
Neon hair extensions? Were these women perhaps time traveling from the 1980's?

Also damn those women were obnoxious as all hell. I give props to Bernie for not trying to punch them out.

So maybe the next protest will be to your liking, or maybe there's no way to please you when it comes to Black Lives Matter cause your dislike is fundamentally about something else...

But dude did you actually see the video? It was obnoxious as all hell. Come on now, surely you don't feel there isn't a better way they could of approached that situation? You are acting like that means I am dismissive of any kind of protest against politician.

Originally posted by Surtur
But dude did you actually see the video? It was obnoxious as all hell. Come on now, surely you don't feel there isn't a better way they could of approached that situation? You are acting like that means I am dismissive of any kind of protest against politician.

Like I said, I think protest movements, particularly those pointing out racial biases, or those spearheaded by women, are perceived as obnoxious no matter what they do, Black Lives Matter doesn't seem like a very aggressive one at that.

I've told you before, I don't think that you are an honest actor when it comes to Black Lives Matter, maybe I'm wrong, but that's my current feeling.

But your assertion doesn't actually hold any weight. You act like only racists would find that type of behavior obnoxious. So you brush this off by saying people who find it obnoxious would find any type of protest obnoxious.

I mention some tactics I think at the very least could be described as "not terrible" and your response is "but you found one of these things bad" as if the specific incident in question was perfectly normal and handled correctly.

You can't seriously tell me you thought that protest was handled well.

That's one interpretation of what I said. You could also say that I think all protests, including that of Black Lives Matter, have an element that's obnoxious in some ways.

I do think that the focus on the "obnoxiousness" of BLM, and the excessive propaganda against them is not based on their methods, but on their message.

But if it was based on their methods then people would have a problem with any protest, ever. I've repeatedly said on this board I support peaceful protests. I have complained about protests that included people acting needlessly aggressive.

I don't view any protest as partially obnoxious. I think some people definitely think they need to be, but that is a different thing then all of them being that way by default. I have personally witnessed things I did not find obnoxious.

Again, I don't believe there's a BLM protest that would satisfy you, I think you don't like the message of BLM, which is why you are always on the opposing side of any BLM thread, and you are always on the opposing side of any racially biased police murder.

I know you misspoke, but what you said is actually true, if it was based on their methods people would have a problem with any protest, they have problems with these particularly ones because they don't like the message. They don't like that it is loud, black women talking about oppression and police violence.

That's why disrupting a library, a relatively small protest, is stylized as something awful and vilified by people who are against the message.

Yeah, sure. To Hell with all the people who paid a fortune for a college education to actually learn about college subjects. Things that, you know, will help them enter the work force. THat's ok though, right? They can just drop out and get hooked on welfare/food stamps. No harm done. 🙄

Anything to help promote the socialist agenda of having everybody dependent on the government, right? 👆

It's no wonder you support dumbasscrats. We have rules in society for a damn good reason. One of those rules is that a library is supposed to be a quiet place where people can go to learn/read/study. If people like you had your way, instead of a Republic, we'd have anarchy where all rules would be thrown out the window at the drop of a hat in the name of equality or the "greater good".

Originally posted by Bardock42
Why do you think the things BLM does can't have positive results but things like the Montgomery Bus Boycott or Civil Rights Marches could? And what can BLM do to have better results in your opinion?