Originally posted by Aurberesidious would have to have a radically different plan if jedi followed zao's wisdom. meanwhile zao would have the jedi focus their concentration on the light side of the force
Why do I get the feeling redpill thinks the Jedi would have never been killed off if they followed Zao? mmm
Most of the Jedi had no reason to expect order 66 would happen.
It doesn't take a ****ing genius to know that betraying the Jedi, putting Dooku and Ventress in the same ship, and planning on hunting Darth Sidious, and expecting to live a peaceful life with Ventress afterwards just wasn't going to work. He didn't do it for philosophical reasons, he did it because he wanted to **** Ventress.
Krell betrayed the Jedi because he wanted to be on top when the empire took over, and the guy thought betraying the Jedi in the heart of their army and taunting the people with guns to his back were good ideas.
And Barriss thought the Jedi "losing their way" was moral justification for killing civilians and terrorism.
TLDR: Vos is a selfish ****, Krell is an ass, Barriss is just wrong, and all three of them are philosophical failures.
Originally posted by Emperordmb
Most of the Jedi had no reason to expect order 66 would happen.
again most jedi are lacking in wisdom, esp since the separtists told them all the bad things about the republic and dooku told them the republic was under control of the sith
Originally posted by Emperordmb
It doesn't take a ****ing genius to know that betraying the Jedi, putting Dooku and Ventress in the same ship, and planning on hunting Darth Sidious, and expecting to live a peaceful life with Ventress afterwards just wasn't going to work. He didn't do it for philosophical reasons, he did it because he wanted to **** Ventress.Krell betrayed the Jedi because he wanted to be on top when the empire took over, and the guy thought betraying the Jedi in the heart of their army and taunting the people with guns to his back were good ideas.
And Barriss thought the Jedi "losing their way" was moral justification for killing civilians and terrorism.
TLDR: Vos is a selfish ****, Krell is an ass, Barriss is just wrong, and all three of them are philosophical failures.
in legends vos clearly knew the republic was corrupt and in canon tcw bariss did as well
pong said he is no longer naive to be a jedi. not justifying his action but he did have insight.
Originally posted by Aurbere
How? Maybe because the Jedi are the singular enemy of the Sith and their Grand Plan was working towards the Jedi's destruction?Gosh, the Sith attempting to destroy the Jedi can't be that much of a stretch. What with all the wars that were waged to that end.
under yoda the jedi served as generals of clones. dooku was very concerned that the jedi might uncover order 66 in the last season of tcw. remember dooku conversing with lama su about the inhibitor chip
how would sidious get order 66 to work if jedi were never generals?
Originally posted by Aurberedont forget as bariss offee noted in tcw last season jedi participation in the war turned public opinion against them. that's on yoda. under zao there would be no public opinion turning against them since they weren't serving as generals.
He doesn't need to get Order 66 to work. There are other ways to kill Jedi. Given that Zao would have them all together meditating and making soup, orbital bombardment would definitely do the trick.
Originally posted by Aurbere
The Jedi did the same thing during the Mandalorian Wars and public opinion was extremely against them. Me thinks the people wouldn't look favorably on the guardians of peace and justice taking off when there's guarding needing doing.
it takes wisdom to understand circumstances have changed.
can you state in your own words what happened to the jedi after order 66 was issued, and what were the chain of events that lead to that?
are you seriously suggesting that a wise being could not have foreseen this and taken measure to prevent or mitigate it?