master Zao vs Yoda, philosophical discussion only

Started by redpill13 pages
Originally posted by Aurbere
Also, Yoda is factually wiser than Zao.

how so?

Originally posted by Aurbere
Yoda was attempting to work against the Sith, unlike Zao who was apparently perfectly content in handing the Sith the galaxy on a silver platter. Like it or not, allowing the dark side to prevail is not in service to the light.

Yoda was in fact working with the Sith. Some wisdom. 🙄

Zao was attuned to the Force and in wisdom he declined to be a general or participate in the war, that gave the Sith the keys.

if you can take off the blinders, Zao was wise and Yoda was not

Originally posted by redpill
how so?

When the Force-sensitive Yoda first encountered Anakin Skywalker, the wisest of the Jedi expressed his deep misgivings about the extraordinary boy from Tatooine.
—Star Wars Fact Files

Originally posted by redpill
it is Zao superior wisdom that prevented Zao from making Yoda's mistakes to begin with.
Consider that 1. Yoda is wiser than Zao in all other respects 2. Zao for all his wisdom did nothing whereas Yoda ultimately played an integral part in saving the galaxy, I would disagree.

rhetorical flourish

Originally posted by Beniboybling
Consider that 1. Yoda is wiser than Zao in all other respects 2. Zao for all his wisdom did nothing whereas Yoda ultimately played an integral part in saving the galaxy, I would disagree.

what are these other respects?

zao's wisdom is to listen and act on the willl of the Force. all a wise jedi needs

Redpill did you rebut Aubre?

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Luke is a guy I'd have>Yoda in light side philosophy, but not ****ing Zao

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Just even stuff like being able to have a husband/wife; Jedi need to get laid too, otherwise that shit gets pent up.

Originally posted by Trocity
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Just even stuff like being able to have a husband/wife; Jedi need to get laid too, otherwise that shit gets pent up.


Less centralization of power, the lack of kidnapping children, and the greater open-mindedness to other force traditions is nice too

The Jedi didn't kidnap children. Anyway, I'll find some time to respond to that garbage tonight, Beni.

I think its only love thats restricted for Jedi. I can't imagine they've banned sex.

I mean ya gotta think theres some alien species with a bonkers sex drive out there that celibacy is a pipe dream for.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
The Jedi didn't kidnap children. Anyway, I'll find some time to respond to that garbage tonight, Beni.

The Jedi don't require parental consent to take force sensitive children, which is a part of Republic law.

Jedi Path

Originally posted by Nephthys
I think its only love thats restricted for Jedi. I can't imagine they've banned sex.

Compassion, unconditional love, is central to a Jedi's life. You might say that they are encouraged to love. 😉

Originally posted by Emperordmb
The Jedi don't require parental consent to take force sensitive children, which is a part of Republic law.

Jedi Path

Page? I can't find it.

That's not the exact quote, but it's on the misconceptions about the Jedi page, somewhere relatively close to the end of the book I think. I'm at work atm, so I don't have a copy on hand.

Found it, although I can see where it's justified so that the child doesn't lose control and start to have their power corrupt them, which could lead them to overtaking their home planet, killing their loved ones and so on.

I mean...it's wrong that they can just take them, but it's not like it's for an unjust cause. Though it seems reading, the Jedi do more or less approach the parents about it and not just take them out of the blue...though it seems they can I guess.

Also reading through this book again, Ahsoka really comes off as a smug little **** to just about everything.

Ahsoka's ****ing hilarious in the Jedi Path, lol

If Yoda was wiser, Anakin would not have fallen.

He also might've spent more effort into finding out what was behind the Clone War, rather than fighting it.

My impression was in terms of actual wisdom, Yoda was supposed to be a bit blind in some areas. Qui-Gon was the one who was able to see through some of the Jedi's flaws.

Emperordmb

The Jedi don't require parental consent to take force sensitive children, which is a part of Republic law.

Mm, there was a story with Windu and a baby taken by the Jedi. The parent hired a bounty hunter- and it turned out, they had brought the kid to the Jedi, then changed their minds, and upon finding this out, Windu returned the kid.

I don't know of any instances where a kid was taken despite parental request.

Heck, there's times when a kid was trained and stayed with thair family too, like Xanatos.

He also knowingly let Jedi council members he trained from padawans die in TCW instead of telling them of his force vision he had.

But hey, he is the wisest Jedi of all time!

Originally posted by EmperorSidious2
Redpill did you rebut Aubre?

i click quote but it won't enter.