Rogers and Bucky vs Ironman

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Rogers and Bucky vs Ironman

No flying or tri beams for Tony.

Going by the trailer, they seem to be kicking his a$$. However, It'll probably end up being a weaker suit.

So sick

Cap/Bucky all the way..

but reserve the right to change my mind on next may

That was badass huh? They were taking it to his ass for damn sure. But IM's durability wins this I think.

IM should win. He can take tanks, small armies and even other iron man suita.

It seems he was dumbed down for the movie. But with out CIS/PIS Stark should win.

And just for the record Iblike CA much better than IM

I imagine they try try to talk it out each time and things get personal so theres a lotta up close and personal fistfights. And if I was gonna pick a spot to jump an opponent inside a metal uit that could fly and shoot lazers and rockets. I would pick a heavily enclosed space where me and my buddy could use our best assets to out advantage. Namely, skill, sppeed, teamwork is amazing as well. Passing Caps shield back and forth to choigh through the armor while striking various joints and keeping his center of gravity and balance off.

It's actually refreshing to see IM taken down a notch. He already got a huge bump up in power just so they could make him match Thor, and if that wasn't enough they bumped him up even more to knock out the Hulk.

Originally posted by Silent Master
Going by the trailer, they seem to be kicking his a$$. However, It'll probably end up being a weaker suit.

Looks like Bleeding Edge. So nah, not weak.

We don't know the context. They might've hit him with EMP or Vision messed him up like in comics. Or something else.

Barring plot or Tony holding back, he should still win this. Let's be real. A single barrage of Tony's mini shoulder rockets should be enough to take out one of them at least, and he doesn't even need to actively aim to use it. IM going all out should kill them both. But in Civil War it's probably going to be a situation of Tony holding back in the movie, due to some lingering friendship with Steve, or residual guilt over the Ultron thing or something.

You mean the tranquilizer darts he fired in IM 1?

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You mean the tranquilizer darts he fired in IM 1?

No, the mini missiles he fired to destroy like half a dozen Chitauri fliers at once during the New York fight in Avengers.

Around 1:30 mark

YouTube video

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's actually refreshing to see IM taken down a notch. He already got a huge bump up in power just so they could make him match Thor, and if that wasn't enough they bumped him up even more to knock out the Hulk.
Plot device armor that was able to constantly reform. Hulk is the powerhouse of the Avengers.

They're making Tony job haaarrdd

Originally posted by FrothByte
It's actually refreshing to see IM taken down a notch. He already got a huge bump up in power just so they could make him match Thor, and if that wasn't enough they bumped him up even more to knock out the Hulk.

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Originally posted by ShadowFyre
That was badass huh? They were taking it to his ass for damn sure. But IM's durability wins this I think.

Cap/bucky have some sick durability without any armor..

Cap fighting Ultron v2 was the closest weve seen to how he handles a fully armored sentient opponent with lasers and all. He handled it damn well. If we assume Buckys arm can rip shreds off tony and caps shield can do big damage at the joints. Im gonna say Team, in spite of Whedon and Blacks attempt to cement Tony as an Expert martial artist, and capable of KOing Hulk in 5 minutes flat.

To be fair, he KO'd the Hulk by suckerpunching him while he was distracted. And that was after basically dropping a building on him.

Originally posted by TheVaultDweller
No, the mini missiles he fired to destroy like half a dozen Chitauri fliers at once during the New York fight in Avengers.

Around 1:30 mark

YouTube video

And the mini missiles in IM2. Come on guys I mean the trailer says it all imo, IM "cap you seem a little tense" later, Cap "he is my friend" IM "so was I...". So lets wait and see, as for now imo, Tonys arsenal > Cap and Bucky.

Originally posted by Utrigita
And the mini missiles in IM2. Come on guys I mean the trailer says it all imo, IM "cap you seem a little tense" later, Cap "he is my friend" IM "so was I...". So lets wait and see, as for now imo, Tonys arsenal > Cap and Bucky.

It really depends on the scenario though. If we're thinking exact same scene we saw in that trailer, they were in a pretty tiny room which means IM isn't as maneuverable. OP also states he cannot fly.

For IM to utilize his missiles he needs to create distance because he needs time to get those in place. But when Bucky and Cap (who are both far faster on the ground than IM is) are both up in his face whacking him with considerable strength, I doubt he'll have enough time to get his missiles to bear.

Even his repulsor blasts take a split second to charge up and fire, and from what we see in the trailer Cap and Bucky are just all over him that he's unable to take a proper shot.

So we need to figure out how this match starts. Are they at distance? Then IM can unleash his full arsenal. Are they face to face? Then IM probably doesn't get a chance to use his weaponry properly and will need to resort to h2h.