Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
He doesn't like that they tell him to arrive on time and do all sorts of stunts. Whined a lot about that. Was so pissed he even spoiled his Age of Ultron appearance, despite being told not to.
Damn what a piece of shit. I sure bet he cashed the check they sent him though.
Though he didn't seriously whine about being told to be on time did he?
Originally posted by Philosophía
No, that's using your logic, not mine. Don't try to pass on stupidity.If I [Superman] physically outclass you [Frankenstein], and you in turn physically outclass your brother [Captain Marvel], then I also physically outclass your brother.
If your drunken father [Deadshot] comes in with a gun and shoots me, that has nothing to do with our actual physical standings.
Deadshot's armour piercing bullets nearly killed Superman, yet Frankenstein's punches didn't do any lasting damage to Superman. This means in terms of offensive power Deadshot's guns >>> Frankenstein's punches.
We're forced to conclude Deadshot's guns have greater offensive power than herald level punches. Yet in the same comic Diana tanks the same armour piercing bullets from Deadshot without any issue.
Could it be that comics are sometimes inconsistent? Especially for certain characters like Superman who star in multiple books being written by multiple writers? I would've thought that would be common sense.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
@Philo:Simples.
Superman struggled with Aquaman in physical h2h (Superman ~=Aquaman). IIRC, Superman even said Aquaman might beat him (I may have misremembered it, though).
Superman BEAT Frankenstein in physical h2h (Superman > Frankenstein).
Frankenstein ~= Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman/OMAC (per your post).
So Aquaman > Frankenstein. So > Cap, WW and OMAC.
Who said it was Superman-centric????
Hello, Beyonders here.
OMAC also physically overpowered regular Superman and in fact Superman said OMAC might actually be stronger than him. So OMAC = or > regular Superman in terms of strength.
Yet Frankenstein physically overpowers OMAC, so Frankenstein > OMAC.
Which means Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
Yet DP Superman overpowers Frankenstein, which means DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
But regular Superman is supposed to be stronger than DP Superman, so this means...
Regular Superman > DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman > DP Superman...and round and round it goes, in the ABC circular logic of hell.
Originally posted by carver9
Never felt POWER like that before (second scan). He didn't say never TRIED power like that...lol. Seems obvious to me. Flash wasn't even there anymore. After tossing Wonder Woman in his mouth, that's when he brings up the power comparison.
We have no reason to assume he was trying to say she was more powerful then Superman as opposed to it simply being of a different nature. A type of power he'd never absorbed before.
Also even if Parasite did clearly say "well I've calculated power levels and Wonder Woman wins" that still would be irrelevant as far as feats are concerned.
Originally posted by One-PunchThe fallacy occurs by not taking into consideration that low showings contradicts high or average showings. If one treats all showings as facts then a contradiction will be reached (as you showed). That's why only average and higher showings should be used here. Dead shot showing was more PIS than an actual low showing.
I was referring to offensive power in general as measured by damage done to Superman, and not just purely strength.Deadshot's armour piercing bullets nearly killed Superman, yet Frankenstein's punches didn't do any lasting damage to Superman. This means in terms of offensive power Deadshot's guns >>> Frankenstein's punches.
We're forced to conclude Deadshot's guns have greater offensive power than herald level punches. Yet in the same comic Diana tanks the same armour piercing bullets from Deadshot without any issue.
Could it be that comics are sometimes inconsistent? Especially for certain characters like Superman who star in multiple books being written by multiple writers? I would've thought that would be common sense.
Here's another one.
OMAC also physically overpowered regular Superman and in fact Superman said OMAC might actually be stronger than him. So OMAC = or > regular Superman in terms of strength.
Yet Frankenstein physically overpowers OMAC, so Frankenstein > OMAC.
Which means Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
Yet DP Superman overpowers Frankenstein, which means DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
But regular Superman is supposed to be stronger than DP Superman, so this means...
Regular Superman > DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman > DP Superman...and round and round it goes, in the ABC circular logic of hell.
Originally posted by Genii96Speed is Superman's greatest advantage. Even flash would beat Thor.
Thor's hammer swings this in his favour...this isn't a wrestling contest
Originally posted by DarkSaint85Superman and Arthur didn't have anything close to a full fight. Aquaman was trying to put him down while Superman was trying to reason with him, all the while taking his attacks..
@Philo:Simples.
Superman struggled with Aquaman in physical h2h (Superman ~=Aquaman). IIRC, Superman even said Aquaman might beat him (I may have misremembered it, though).
Superman BEAT Frankenstein in physical h2h (Superman > Frankenstein).
Frankenstein ~= Captain Marvel/Wonder Woman/OMAC (per your post).
So Aquaman > Frankenstein. So > Cap, WW and OMAC.
Meanwhile he had a full on all in fight with franky...
Regardless...
I'm going to take a guess and assume you don't know the context for the frankestein fight[neither did i until 30 min ago]. two things to note:
1. both of them were amped by black mass, which feeds on rage - thus neither was in their base powerlevel - effectively nullifying the fight [i just read the issue, as i skipped comics last month - the context is as new to me as it is to you, i was just counting on abhi's scans...which were missing it]
2. superman gave him this lip service prior to the fight..
3. i already pointed out this is an outlier - which doesn't matter, since it's invalid.
bottom line - fight had extenuating circumstances, frankenstein's rep is mantained
Originally posted by One-Punchfor the frankestein part, read my last post - i added context, it's nullified.
Here's another one.OMAC also physically overpowered regular Superman and in fact Superman said OMAC might actually be stronger than him. So OMAC = or > regular Superman in terms of strength.
Yet Frankenstein physically overpowers OMAC, so Frankenstein > OMAC.
Which means Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
Yet DP Superman overpowers Frankenstein, which means DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman.
But regular Superman is supposed to be stronger than DP Superman, so this means...
Regular Superman > DP Superman > Frankenstein > OMAC > regular Superman > DP Superman...and round and round it goes, in the ABC circular logic of hell.
but since you started the rest...
1.supes is notorious for giving lip service. it's a running joke at this point.
2.supes has become much, much stronger since that fight, tapping into reserves he didn't know he had [post helspont fight]
3. superman, in that same instance, punched a hole in one punch through omac, then beat him with a single blast of hv...