Originally posted by carver9
Superman said he was getting stronger and the human girl punched a building down once having black mass on her.
But even then, Wrath is implying he isn't as powerful as before and Frank is amped as well by the same substance.
So back to a ridiculously high showing it is.
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Originally posted by abhilegendyeah, it's implied supes would blitz him to the moon at full power in a blink
Yeah, I missed that somehow. In my defense, Pak has become a shitty writer on Action Comics. MehBut even then, Wrath is implying he isn't as powerful as before and Frank is amped as well by the same substance.
So back to a ridiculously high showing it is.
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Originally posted by abhilegendI just can't read this editorially imposed shitstain that is the current crop of titles.
Yeah, I missed that somehow. In my defense, Pak has become a shitty writer on Action Comics. Meh
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He'll of course be back to his normal form/characterization once the movie comes, but in the meantime...
Both Marvel and DC seem to have a fetish of doing something shitty with the characters before the movies hit, and then bringing them back.
Greg Pak is a considerably above average Superman writer when allowed, but DC is just shitty in the management department and wouldn't let him do his thing.
Originally posted by DarkSaint85👆
For some reason, I cannot quote your posts, Philo...but 👆.
I still think, baring a few exceptions, that writers have the characters relative standing in mind - if not quite the capabilities themselves. There's a few crap showings - like recently Aquaman vs Catman or whatever, where you're like "really?", but in general, it's consistent-ish.
He's caught the Flash by surprise.
Edit:
This alien is faster than the Flash:
But he took him out with his own speed:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4308787-vvvsm-12-09.jpg
And we all saw how quickly Parasite could drain people (thanks, carver!). But Superman is faster than his rate of draining:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4308837-zytt2014-01-29+07-35-24+-+superman+%282011-%29+027-004.jpg
But if you want a hard number, he can move his legs at 25,000mph when he was much younger:
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4307032-ttta-02.jpg
http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4307034-ttta-04.jpg
So if anything, he can at least kick him...
Originally posted by One-Punch
AOE lightning either from his hammer or storms would slow Superman down, if not outright hurt him badly since it's magical. Thor's not just some brute who's limited to swinging a hammer. Mjolnir's abilities makes him nearly as versatile as Surfer.
He's faster than lightning 😛
Originally posted by DarkSaint85
He's faster than lightning 😛http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/12/125391/4308771-ac-08.jpg
Superman blitzed Mongul just fine. In a thousandth of a second, no less, whilst saving people AND strategising and analysing:
Really, I wouldn't want carver on my team in a debate. Of course, he has me on ignore, which just means he will never be able to reply.
Full potential for Thor too, which means planetary thunder storms all aimed at Superman, and AOE lightning emanating from his hammer or body.
Supe's long range options of HV are countered easily. If Superman wants to take Thor out he needs to get close and punch him. Will he be able to do that without being hit by lightning? I doubt it.
One lightning bolt can be dodged, but hundreds? Coming from the sky and from your opponent? Not so easy. And as soon one hits Supes will be stunned if not hurt since it's magic, and thus slowed down enough for Thor to actually hit him with his hammer or pour on more lightning. 10+ Gigawatts should be enough.
