California shooting

Started by Robtard27 pages

Originally posted by vansonbee
Pretty sad story. The shooting barely took place and the information leak out by the media is suspects were white, but are really Muslims. lol

Kind of scary, this event had to happen in my state.

Islam isn't an ethnicity and white people can be Muslim 👆

The media was reporting what the police were looking for, which came from accounts of the people who were there, it's not hard in the mass panic and confusion after a mass-murder for details to be wrong 👆

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
CNN is on in the background..I heard it on there.

Please respond to what I posted above.

You need to stop watching CNN they have their own agenda. Remember the kid in Chicago shot 16 times and how the video was just released? You know how the kid was high on PCP, wielding a knife, refusing orders from cops, the whole nine?

This isn't about that kid, it is about what CNN did. They showed the video and acted like the cops literally shot him for jay walking, that is what they said. They didn't mention the knife or the break ins or anything.

In other words CNN leaves VITAL details out in order to suit whatever little agenda they are pushing that day. Turns out Jon Stewart was right all along about them.

I would quite literally trust Christian Bale dressed up as a newsie more then I would CNN.

Just one more shooting, another week there will be another one and then moron Republicans will still be screaming "TYRANNY!!!" for even the most tame and ineffective attempts at legislation. You have a greater chance of being killed by a gun in the US, than being killed by ISIS or any Islamist. But chest thumping Republican wingnut ****s and the NRA, scream for absolutist interpretations of the 2nd amendment and even thwart attempts at Background check legislation.

Yep, that's right. I've said this before, it doesn't matter if a mass shooting like this happened everyday for the next friggin' year. The second amendment is clear and it's untouchable by u dumbocrats who want to take it away and leave Americans defenseless to criminals and terrorists like lambs to the slaughter. You dumbocrats are so naive if u think banning guns or having tougher gun control laws is gonna keep guns out of hands of criminals or terrorists. Republicans actually believe in abiding by the laws laid out in the Constitution unlike pathetic democrats and the liberal media who think they can just illegally pass a law or an executive order to take away American citizens' God-given right to protect themselves. If democrats wanna change the second amendment then they had better damn well do it the legal way by getting a 3/5 state majority vote. Congress doesn't have the power to do it. Neither does Obama or the ugly loud mouth b**** Hilldog. She can flap her jaws about it all she wants to. 👆

Yep, that's right. I've said this before, it doesn't matter if a mass shooting like this happened everyday for the next friggin' year. The second amendment is clear and it's untouchable by u dumbocrats who want to take it away and leave Americans defenseless to criminals and terrorists like lambs to the slaughter. You dumbocrats are so naive if u think banning guns or having tougher gun control laws is gonna keep guns out of hands of criminals or terrorists.

What's clear about it? Does it apply to rocket launchers, 50 Cals, ****ing tanks? It talks about a "well regulated militia" with archaic language that dates back to the 1700s, and easily open to interpretation to anyone. Nice strawman about me stating that I am a democrat, or saying that I wanted to ban guns. Facts don't lie, and the American gun owner has killed more people whether unintentionally or intentionally than any Islamist. I'm all for the right to self-defense, but stricter background checks and even training courses aren't 3rd Reich pieces of legislation.

Republicans actually believe in abiding by the laws laid out in the Constitution unlike pathetic democrats and the liberal media who think they can just illegally pass a law or an executive order to take away American citizens' God-given right to protect themselves. If democrats wanna change the second amendment then they had better damn well do it the legal way by getting a 3/5 state majority vote.

Show me any full throttle effort by the Obama administration to even pursue anything relating to "taking away god' given rights" or passing any executive orders that would take guns away.

If democrats wanna change the second amendment then they had better damn well do it the legal way by getting a 3/5 state majority vote. Congress doesn't have the power to do it. Neither does Obama or the ugly loud mouth b**** Hilldog. She can flap her jaws about it all she wants to. thumb up

Implying Democrats haven't actually attempted to vote on the issue in a manner consistent with our system, and it hasn't been utterly crushed by the gun lobby/Republicans 👆

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/senate-gop-votes-terrorist-gun-bill-article-1.2454448

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/senate-democrats-gun-control_56608755e4b08e945fee73e5

Originally posted by Star428
Yep, that's right. I've said this before, it doesn't matter if a mass shooting like this happened everyday for the next friggin' year. The second amendment is clear and it's untouchable by u dumbocrats who want to take it away and leave Americans defenseless to criminals and terrorists like lambs to the slaughter. You dumbocrats are so naive if u think banning guns or having tougher gun control laws is gonna keep guns out of hands of criminals or terrorists. Republicans actually believe in abiding by the laws laid out in the Constitution unlike pathetic democrats and the liberal media who think they can just illegally pass a law or an executive order to take away American citizens' God-given right to protect themselves. If democrats wanna change the second amendment then they had better damn well do it the legal way by getting a 3/5 state majority vote. Congress doesn't have the power to do it. Neither does Obama or the ugly loud mouth b**** Hilldog. She can flap her jaws about it all she wants to. 👆
I don't understand why people don't want stricter gun laws. The only guns that are legal to own are like pea-shooters compared to the military's best. Make it harder for people to get guns and more law abiding citizens will end up with them than criminals.

Truly, as much as you appreciate guns and the American right to defend oneself, you probably would be disturbed upon finding a claw machine full of guns and bullets. Everybody including young children can have their lives threatened. Do you think that if everyone was armed we would have peace as a result of mutual respect for the weapons? Sincere question.

Originally posted by Robtard
Islam isn't an ethnicity and white people can be Muslim 👆

Yeah wasn't there a white guy who defected about ten years ago and ended up on the news?

Religion of Peace strikes again?

Wasn't there a report that the shooters were already being investigated prior to this happening?

NPR was talking about how while there's a decent chance this was religiously-motivated, the MO for an extremist attack isn't there. No videos released (thus far) proclaiming their martyrdom, no screaming "Allahu Akhbar" during the shooting. Admittedly, that doesn't prove this wasn't an extremist attack, but it shows that this isn't necessarily a cleancut example of Islamic extremism, and could be something else.

So he was radicalized by his wife apparently. Whom he went to Saudi Arabia met and married her in 9 days.

Fiorina was on "The Kelly File" again last night sharing her thoughts on the typical shameful tactics of the left of politicizing tragic events and how all the liberals were throwing a tempter tantrum that Republican candidates were offering their prayers to the families of the victims. She was quite impressive. It's too bad she's so low in the polls because she would be an awesome President. Still, not sure though if I'd vote for her over any of the top 3 Republican candidates right now but she'd make a Hell of a lot better C-in-C than Hilldog. That's for sure. They showed Hillary's most recent campaign commercial on one of the FOX shows the other night. Something about it's time for a woman to have a turn and that 44 boys are too many. LOL. Seriously, that's pretty sad when you have to try to influence votes by using the fact that you are a woman as a campaign strategy. If people wanna woman President for no other reason than just to break the cycle then they should at least vote for one who doesn't lie with every other word that comes out of her mouth and wasn't responsible for getting 4 Americans killed. In other words, they should vote Fiorina if having a woman President is so damn important to them.

I just want to say I do still think stricter gun control laws can prevent certain tragedies. On the other hand the level of planning that went into this..it likely wouldn't of mattered for this specific case.

What actually happened was they were planning for a bigger attack, based on everything found at their house.

2500 rounds of .223
12 pipe bombs found
Hundres of tool to make more IED
2000 rounds of 9mm
Several hundred 22 Long Rifle found

They had a larger attack planned, but went to the Christmas party, got upset, prolly because the wife had radicalized him and they most likley got mad about christmas or something like that, who actually knows with these types of bigots, they went home and decided to do the attack now.

Yeah so with all that it is hard to believe this wasn't having to do with religion, even if they got pissed at a party and attacked...this wasn't about work.

So it could be their utter stupidity in not being able to control themselves lead to less deaths? Ohhh no! Allah will not be happy.

Just kidding, imaginary beings can't be happy or sad.

He had visited SA and Pakistan a few times. His wife was from over there, he married her, either ISIS gave her to him, or she was already part of ISIS. My guess is she was beautiful. They turned him. That Syrian refugee I talked to did say Islam turns good people bad. Now what is interesting and makes it without a doubt Islamic Terrorism is they abandoned their newborn..

Them abandoning their newborn, even if they covered it in honey and gave it to a god damn grizzly bear..was probably the ONLY decent thing these people will ever do.

Good point, but what they did after is hell worthy.

I also don't know if I buy into the "they turn good people bad". I just don't think a truly good person would ever go shoot up..well, anyone. If you let cowardly pieces of shit twist your mind like a damn Sith Lord you aren't a good person.

Not even a beautiful woman with a vagina she is ready and willing to let you enter is enough of an excuse to turn bad.

This guy was a upstanding citizen his whole life? So he was a piece of shit his whole life and then just did this out of no where, I don't buy it.