The OFFICIAL 'Is there more than one Matrix?' thread

Started by In_cite27 pages

Originally posted by princess leia
not meaning to offend *at all* in cite...but ahh, do you...do much in your life?

😂 No offence taken. I use a lot of logic in what I do. I'm a Mathematician! 😉 But come now,...what I do in life is not under debate here? Please stick to the point of the discussion...

😉

whoops. yessir.
i think that there is only one matrix and he gets the power outside the matrix from being linked to agent smith inside the matrix.
maybe. i havent actually thought that out. its just a rampant idea.

good thinking! 🙂

i hate to say it...but, the Matrix is more complex than has been discussed thus far within this discussion. Zion is still inside of a computer program...not the 'Matrix' as we know it, but something more diverse and perverse...Neo was able to stop the sentinels not because of some metaphysical power, or as one of the many of the 'impossible' feats he has been able to accomplish, but because he has realized--maybe on some 'subconcious' reality--that he is in fact a machine himself...a program written to be 'the one'...a program written for a certain purpose...which is why Smith is also able to reside in Zion...the question remains-'has Neo accomplished the task which he was written to do, or has the program diverted from the destiny thereof?'

Bonesxte:

If you listen to what the Architect says to Neo then you would know he is not a machine.

"Although this process has altered your consciousness...you remain irrevocably human"

Then you get the info from the game FROM the Oracle:

"Neo has touched the source...he is trapped between our (the matrix) world and your world (the real world)."

There is no Matrix within a Matrix or 1 matrix with multiple levels etc. There is The Matrix and The Real world in which the Matrix resides along with the machines who created it. Zion is 100% real and it is all another level of control. The machines form of entertainment called "Slaughter the Humans" 🙂

I may actually sit down tonight and write an essay on the subject showing the points that Zion is in fact real etc and the points for the Matrix within a Matrix stuff. (if there is any).

Oh and Smith can reside in the Real World because he destroyed the mind of Bane and is now in control of it.

If you remember what Neo said when he fought Smith and he tried to copy himself:

Trinity: What was he doing to you? (something like that)
Neo: I don't know, but I know what it felt like. It felt like being back in that corridor (in the first film when he got shot), it felt like dying.

That should explain the Smith in Bane's mind thing 🙂

Originally posted by bonesxte
i hate to say it...but, the Matrix is more complex than has been discussed thus far within this discussion. Zion is still inside of a computer program...not the 'Matrix' as we know it, but something more diverse and perverse...Neo was able to stop the sentinels not because of some metaphysical power, or as one of the many of the 'impossible' feats he has been able to accomplish, but because he has realized--maybe on some 'subconcious' reality--that he is in fact a machine himself...a program written to be 'the one'...a program written for a certain purpose...which is why Smith is also able to reside in Zion...the question remains-'has Neo accomplished the task which he was written to do, or has the program diverted from the destiny thereof?'

You got some inside knowledge?
The One isn't a program its a glitch.
Smith transfering himself into Banes is like when they learn Kung Fu,they download the information, Smith just donwloaded himself.

ok sifer...i can respect that...but Smith is a program...a machine...how can a machine reside inside of a non-mechanical human body...in his mind???...but if Zion is real then his (Bane's) mind has already been freed...humans and machines do not cross-breed

Originally posted by bonesxte
ok sifer...i can respect that...but Smith is a program...a machine...how can a machine reside inside of a non-mechanical human body...in his mind???...but if Zion is real then his (Bane's) mind has already been freed...humans and machines do not cross-breed

Smith is a program! What you see in the Matrix isn't a robot. A program!

ok....so is the 'real world' a program, or is it real?--according to u Kes?

The real world is real. The Matrix is a program. Read the other 25pages. We've talked about this.

i agree wit kes.

I would say "IMO" but my opinion is always right soooo
In actual fact there IS at least two matrices and one real world.
1st domain: The real world, the one in which the architect lives
2nd domian: Sion. Where the sentinals and the Sion city exsist
3rd domian: The well known matrix that has all the cool fighting in it.

PROOF:
Right in the opening of Reloaded it shows the code of the matrix compiling into the 12:00 clock in the guards room where Trinity busts in. But if you pay attention you can actually watch a series of code compile into another line of code which compiles into the 3rd domian.

Secondly, the Architect speaks of how he has created 7 previous Sions, and this has all happened 7 different times. More proof that he has created a matrix which has a matrix also within it.

I am WITHOUT A DOUBT postive that there are two matrices.

-Mr.Anderson out

right. how do we knoooooow that the '3rd code' is a third code and nt jsut more code?

Originally posted by JarenMacbeth
I would say "IMO" but my opinion is always right soooo
In actual fact there IS at least two matrices and one real world.
1st domain: The real world, the one in which the architect lives
2nd domian: Sion. Where the sentinals and the Sion city exsist
3rd domian: The well known matrix that has all the cool fighting in it.

PROOF:
Right in the opening of Reloaded it shows the code of the matrix compiling into the 12:00 clock in the guards room where Trinity busts in. But if you pay attention you can actually watch a series of code compile into another line of code which compiles into the 3rd domian.

Secondly, the Architect speaks of how he has created 7 previous Sions, and this has all happened 7 different times. More proof that he has created a matrix which has a matrix also within it.

I am WITHOUT A DOUBT postive that there are two matrices.

-Mr.Anderson out

Well since you know so much! Oh its actually 5times.This is the 6th! And he didn't create Zion he allowed the one to take the people he needed to rebuild Zion.

thats what i thought. oh dont think we are all against you tho.

PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

please, thereis only one matrix!!
no way will the brothers leave that till the end. then everything would have to start again.
But i am not arguing with the theory that ne may not be human.
(MAYBE HE IS AN ANGELL) lol
but try to realise that the real world is real.
and if i turn out to be wrong then you can all beat me silly with a large dead fish.

Dont worry. will protect you! you are not alone in believing in only one matrix! i only believe in one matrix! 🙂

glad to have you aboard kes. your support is greately appreciated. 🙂

MORE RESONS:
if you make the movie too complicated ie: tho matrixes, you will confuse and lose the audience, and i dont think that the brothers would want that.