Coleman Trebor vs. Kylo Ren

Started by Sinious5 pages

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lmfao what?

The duel was fantastic and my favorite in SW.

Like they are "supposed to"? How are they supposed to fight? Because I see two vastly different fighting styles between the original and the prequels. That Disney decided to go with Lucas's original intention rather is not a flaw of the film and doesn't make the duels "improper".

Originally posted by ares834
Like they are "supposed to"? How are they supposed to fight? Because I see two vastly different fighting styles between the original and the prequels. That Disney decided to go with Lucas's original intention rather is not a flaw of the film and doesn't make the duels "improper".
Yeah, I'm sure Lucas would've filmed the OT duels today the same way he did with 30 years old technology.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
lmfao what?

The duel was fantastic and my favorite in SW.


If Kylo Ren never had a mask and Rey wasn't played by Daisey Ridley, you'd be going on and on about how it lacked _______.

Except he did (he didn't even have the mask for the fight). And she was.

And when I watched the fight I was fully engaged with every swing and clapped, along with my audience, when Finn scored a hit against Ren.

And the Rey vs Ren fight was just totally fantastic, especially their bladelock with the camera looking up at them. When she won the audience went wild.

It was the best fight in Star Wars.

Originally posted by Sinious
Yeah, I'm sure Lucas would've filmed the OT duels today the same way he did with 30 years old technology.

Oh, nice little strawman. That's why I specifically said Lucas's original intention. He envisioned lightsabers to be heavy weapons. He even wanted Mark to almost always wield it with two hands, despite the fact that Mark and the choreographers wanted to use the saber one handed at times.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Except he did (he didn't even have the mask for the fight). And she was.

And when I watched the fight I was fully engaged with every swing and clapped, along with my audience, when Finn scored a hit against Ren.

And the Rey vs Ren fight was just totally fantastic, especially their bladelock with the camera looking up at them. When she won the audience went wild.

It was the best fight in Star Wars.


Originally posted by FreshestSlice

Alright well, you be you and continue on with your Kylo Ren sucks brigade.

I'll be over here thinking Kylo Ren is a greater villain than Darth Vader (most famous villain ever), comparable if not more powerful in the movie format, and already has the best fight in the franchise.

Originally posted by ares834
Oh, nice little strawman. That's why I specifically said Lucas's original intention. He envisioned lightsabers to be heavy weapons. He even wanted Mark to almost always wield it with two hands, despite the fact that Mark and the choreographers wanted to use the saber one handed at times.
And none of this is actually relevant. We've seen how force users are depicted and know what they should be capable of. These people can deflect blaster bolts with their weapons ffs. Do you even believe Kylo fighting the way he did makes sense?

Yes.

Originally posted by Sinious
And none of this is actually relevant. We've seen how force users are depicted and know what they should be capable of. These people can deflect blaster bolts with their weapons ffs. Do you even believe Kylo fighting the way he did makes sense?

Yes.

Then it's too late for you.

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
Alright well, you be you and continue on with your Kylo Ren sucks brigade.

I'll be over here thinking Kylo Ren is a greater villain than Darth Vader (most famous villain ever), comparable if not more powerful in the movie format, and already has the best fight in the franchise.


Right. It doesn't have shit to do with Kylo being terrible and a lot more to do with he's obviously below Vader in every way, which is his entire character for a good half of the movie, and that their brawl in the woods isn't the the best duel in Star Wars. The range between "Sucks dick" and "Would suck its dick" is as vast as an ocean.

Originally posted by Sinious
I think the force wielders should fight like they're supposed to. I'm not suggesting uber CGI but they completely ignored the progression we saw in PT. It definitely had good elements in the dueling scenes that the OT naturally couldn't provide. Kylo was f'ing slower than Gimli from LOTR.

"Supposed to"? GTFO man.

Sorry I have this stupid habit where I don't ignore technological progression and logical depiction of characters with extraordinary powers.

Originally posted by Sinious
Sorry I have this stupid habit where I don't ignore technological progression and logical depiction of characters with extraordinary powers.

Agreed

Honestly I didn't think there was much of a difference in terms of speed compared to the cartoons and movies. Kylo simply used his saber more as a heavy weapon with power attacks. Doesn't make him shit.

The fact that Ren could even stand up after taking a blast from Chewies cannon is extraordinary tbh.


And the Rey vs Ren fight was just totally fantastic, especially their bladelock with the camera looking up at them.

^Arguably the worst moment in any SW duel ever.

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