Coleman Trebor vs. Kylo Ren

Well, it was my favorite, so https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brjVfLwSCF4&t=0m48s.

Originally posted by NewGuy01
^Arguably the worst moment in any SW duel ever.

Windu vs Sidious was infinitely more embarrassing.

Also it was obvious that Kylo knows more about Rey then he let on. Calling his actions dumb when he don't know all the context is itself, very foolish.

Well then, more evidence your tastes are shit, despite the fact that I also liked the general coreography of (most of) the TFA duels.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Windu vs Sidious was infinitely more embarrassing.

Also it was obvious that Kylo knows more about Rey then he let on. Calling his actions dumb when he don't know all the context is itself, very foolish.

The choreo is on par imo.

Originally posted by Lord Stark
The choreo is on par imo.

Holy shit.

Well, you're insane for that but can you really tell me that you think her closing her eyes for two seconds is as bad as "Nooooaa nooooo nO YOU WILL DIE!" Apart from the Vader NOOOO and Jar Jar thats easily the worst acting in any SW movie.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Holy shit.

Well, you're insane for that but can you really tell me that you think her closing her eyes for two seconds is as bad as "Nooooaa nooooo nO YOU WILL DIE!" Apart from the Vader NOOOO and Jar Jar thats easily the worst acting in any SW movie.

That's not part of the choreo lol

I'm solely talking about the duel, not the ensuing awful dialogue and force battle.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Windu vs Sidious was infinitely more embarrassing.

Also it was obvious that Kylo knows more about Rey then he let on. Calling his actions dumb when he don't know all the context is itself, very foolish.

I agree. In the novel, when Rey calls the lightsaber to herself Kylo says, "It is you."

I'm a fan of the theory that it was Kylo who stranded Rey on Jakku as he was incapable of killing her when he massacred the Jedi. In fact, if you look at the vision, it seems the character Kylo kills is actually a KoR in the process of killing Rey.

Originally posted by ares834
I agree. In the novel, when Rey calls the lightsaber to herself Kylo says, "It is you."

I'm a fan of the theory that it was Kylo who stranded Rey on Jakku as he was incapable of killing her when he massacred the Jedi. In fact, if you look at the vision, it seems the character Kylo kills is actually a KoR in the process of killing Rey.

@ares: 👆

Originally posted by Lord Stark
That's not part of the choreo lol

I'm solely talking about the duel, not the ensuing awful dialogue and force battle.

You said moment. Rey focusing on the Force wasn't choreography either.

Yeah, the Windu/Sidious choreography was turrible. Kylo/Rey/Finn was better.

That's not saying much, though. And the "emotional" stakes were infinitely higher in that confrontation than Kylo/Rey/Finn ever was. {Since "emotion" is almost always what is referenced by those who favor OT depiction of duels.}

But many PT duels outstrip Kylo/Rey/Finn in terms of choreography, emotional stakes, or both.

Originally posted by ares834
I agree. In the novel, when Rey calls the lightsaber to herself Kylo says, "It is you."

I'm a fan of the theory that it was Kylo who stranded Rey on Jakku as he was incapable of killing her when he massacred the Jedi. In fact, if you look at the vision, it seems the character Kylo kills is actually a KoR in the process of killing Rey.

That is...very interesting.

Originally posted by Nephthys
You said moment. Rey focusing on the Force wasn't choreography either.

No I didn't. That was new guy. I had no problem with Rey focusing on the force. I just didn't like some of the choreo. That being said I just rewatched Mace vs. Sidious without my rose colored glasses for the first time in a while and...yeah no it was horrible. Kylo, Finn Rey was better. But still not better than Duel of Fates, Clash of Heroes...or even Dooku's fights.

/Rey closes her eyes
/Kylo punches her in the face again instead of staring at her
/then ground collapses

Would have prefered that.

😂

Also just to be clear I loved TFA. But it was by no means perfect.

Originally posted by Sinious
I want to believe that but then several details in the fighting scene would be illogical like Kylo literally punching his wound.

That struck me as a, 'C'mon, muscles, don't freeze,' move. I've pounded on non-cooperating body parts before.

Some say he was trying to use the pain to ramp himself up, or at least try to get used to the pain.

That's not really something someone barely able to stand would do though.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Holy shit.

Well, you're insane for that but can you really tell me that you think her closing her eyes for two seconds is as bad as "Nooooaa nooooo nO YOU WILL DIE!" Apart from the Vader NOOOO and Jar Jar thats easily the worst acting in any SW movie.