Coleman Trebor vs. Kylo Ren

Started by FreshestSlice5 pages

Originally posted by Sinious
That's not really something someone barely able to stand would do though.

Except it worked.

Except the scene didn't.

Look, man, I've been shitting on Kylo since the movie released, and even I think Kylo vamping up to go ham was hella dope. Him approaching Finn before absolutely destroying him was also fantastic. One of the best scenes in the film.

Regardless of whether you think Kylo went down like a *****, does anybody seriously think he loses this fight?

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Look, man, I've been shitting on Kylo since the movie released, and even I think Kylo vamping up to go ham was hella dope. Him approaching Finn before absolutely destroying him was also fantastic. One of the best scenes in the film.
I never criticized this part of the scene. My point is that it doesn't make sense for someone barely able to stand to behave the way he did in the film.

Originally posted by Emperordmb
Apparently he was stated to be ****ing around with Finn before he got tagged, he was stated to be weakened by conflicting emotions, and he was stated to barely be able to stand because of his injuries.

The conflicting emotions if fine. The rest was just a retarded way to force a Saber duel against Ren into this movie. Definitely my most hated part of this movie just behind the Death Star rip off.

Anyway he stomps in this fight. As he does in the Kylo vs Kanan thread.

Originally posted by Sinious
That's not really something someone barely able to stand would do though.

Not quite 'barely able to stand,' but it is something someone trying to fight through a major wound would do.

I really liked that. I'm a big fan of when stuff lets people's wounds affect their performance.

Originally posted by Q99
Not quite 'barely able to stand,' but it is something someone trying to fight through a major wound would do.

I really liked that. I'm a big fan of when stuff lets people's wounds affect their performance.

Someone said it is stated that he was "barely able to stand" so I was referring to that.

Me too. Like when a very powerful force user can't defeat a powerful force user because of it. This is something else though.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
The conflicting emotions if fine. The rest was just a retarded way to force a Saber duel against Ren into this movie. Definitely my most hated part of this movie just behind the Death Star rip off.

Anyway he stomps in this fight. As he does in the Kylo vs Kanan thread.

Stomps? Why? Trebor was possibly the most pathetic member of the Council, but still a Jedi Master during Order's prime. He wanted to face Dooku, but had to fight Fett at first place, which he wasn't ready for. And still, he was killed by a finest bounty hunter in the whole galaxy. And Kylo got hit by a former stormtrooper, who was baten by another stromtrooper (let alone theirs leader - a Brienne of ****in Tarth).

If Kylo will be forced to lightsaber duel, he may die. The onlu question is is Trebor's Force guard strong enough to protect him against Kylo's Force attacks?

Originally posted by Sinious
I never criticized this part of the scene. My point is that it doesn't make sense for someone barely able to stand to behave the way he did in the film.

Except that's exactly how we expect a Sith to act? You know, channeling pain and adrenaline into power? Sounds like bitching to ***** to me.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Except that's exactly how we expect a Sith to act? You know, channeling pain and adrenaline into power? Sounds like bitching to ***** to me.
Give me an instance where a barely standing Sith exploited his wounds like that you dumb f***

Give me an example of a barely standing Sith doing anything besides dying? "Oh no, Kylo makes all these other Sith look bad by actually being able to do shit."

You're being silly. DMB said it is stated that he was barely able to stand. He didn't appear that way in the movie and that particular detail also supported this. Don't argue just to argue.

He struggled to stand at first...

Originally posted by Sinious
You're being silly. DMB said it is stated that he was barely able to stand. He didn't appear that way in the movie and that particular detail also supported this. Don't argue just to argue.

Lulz, like NewGuy said. It's not like he could hardly move for the rest of the movie. You're just being obtuse now.

Originally posted by McP
Stomps? Why? Trebor was possibly the most pathetic member of the Council, but still a Jedi Master during Order's prime. He wanted to face Dooku, but had to fight Fett at first place, which he wasn't ready for. And still, he was killed by a finest bounty hunter in the whole galaxy. And Kylo got hit by a former stormtrooper, who was baten by another stromtrooper (let alone theirs leader - a Brienne of ****in Tarth).

If Kylo will be forced to lightsaber duel, he may die. The onlu question is is Trebor's Force guard strong enough to protect him against Kylo's Force attacks?

Yeah except he was seriously wounded.

I doubt someone like Trebor could tank Ben's Force Powers.

Here's a thing, the novel people are rarely told the fight choreography, so while they knew the general beats, they may not have known *where* the wound was.

A shot to the side is one of the more inconveniencing places to be hit in a sword fight, almost all your attacks and blocks use the muscles around you middle. That's a really hard-to-fight-with hit he took, especially since he had to go through *two* fights with that wound.

Well, hard to tell, since we had not see him using his powers against any, at least moderate-skilled, combatant.

And yeah, he was wounded, but Finn should be a non-facotr anyway.

Kylo can stop blaster bolts
Trebor reflected blaster bolts into his chest

That's good enough to say they aren't comparable in the slightest of ways.

Yeah I've seen things from Kylo that Trebor can't do, but I've seen nothing from Trebor that Kylo can't do.