Originally posted by quanchi112how does the torture being unsuccessful prove Kylo didn't need him weakened? All it proves is that Kylo was tortured...
We see that they were unsuccessful since Kylo just met him and they hadn't gleamed the information they needed from him. Boom.
Also, how is this relevant to an actual fight?
Originally posted by Henry_PymIt is on you to prove he needs him to be weakened to use his force powers. He was talking just fine.
how does the torture being unsuccessful prove Kylo didn't need him weakened? All it proves is that Kylo was tortured...Also, how is this relevant to an actual fight?
Do you know how debating works ?
Kylo force freezes him and kills him. That's relevant, boy.
Originally posted by quanchi112no it isn't... He successfully mind read one person, after torture for an extended period of time and it took him time to torture said person before getting the information.
It is on you to prove he needs him to be weakened to use his force powers. He was talking just fine.Do you know how debating works ?
Kylo force freezes him and kills him. That's relevant, boy.
I'm not sure you saw the movie.
Prove he can force freeze someone as physically strong as Loki, I'll be waiting.
Originally posted by Henry_PymThe torture had nothing to do with the force powers. If you feel they did prove it. Yes, he needed to use the force to get the info.
no it isn't... He successfully mind read one person, after torture for an extended period of time and it took him time to torture said person before getting the information.I'm not sure you saw the movie.
Prove he can force freeze someone as physically strong as Loki, I'll be waiting.
Irony since Poe joked who talks first do you talk first or do I talk first. He wasn't broken by interrogation you colossal fool.
Loki isn't that strong. That's Thor. Loki is the trickster. The Lightsaber would end him.
Originally posted by quanchi112being weakened doesn't affect your abilities... Nice to know you can't weasel your way out of Rey emasculating Kylo.
The torture had nothing to do with the force powers. If you feel they did prove it. Yes, he needed to use the force to get the info.Irony since Poe joked who talks first do you talk first or do I talk first. He wasn't broken by interrogation you colossal fool.
Loki isn't that strong. That's Thor. Loki is the trickster. The Lightsaber would end him.
Because him joking means all the blood was an illusion... Lol flaming
Loki literally had bullets bounce off his face and caught a full draw arrow without so much as a hand budge... Low balling and flaming; sir, I think you have lost this debate.
Originally posted by Henry_PymIt does weaken your movement and your body ffs. If you lose a lot of blood and have your shoulder cut through by a lightsaber. It's like saying Michael Jordan is the same with a torn acl. Are you getting this ?
being weakened doesn't affect your abilities... Nice to know you can't weasel your way out of Rey emasculating Kylo.Because him joking means all the blood was an illusion... Lol flaming
Loki literally had bullets bounce off his face and caught a full draw arrow without so much as a hand budge... Low balling and flaming; sir, I think you have lost this debate.
It shows he clearly wasn't broken by the interrogation at all. He was broken by Kylo but I have to hold your incapable hand throughout this entire debate.
Are you comparing a bullet to a lightsaber ?
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Originally posted by Henry_PymI didn't say he'd read his mind in battle I said he'd freeze and kill him.
So prove he can mind read in battle.Your only holding my hand because you are/have lost.
Divertion; this is a strength argument. Prove Kylo can restrain someone on Loki's physical level. Just concede, please.
You made the claim Loki is too strong so the onus in you since the ability has already been proven.
Originally posted by quanchi112even then it would still be on you, you are saying it's able to hold a character as physically strong as Loki... I'm asking you why?
I didn't say he'd read his mind in battle I said he'd freeze and kill him.You made the claim Loki is too strong so the onus in you since the ability has already been proven.
Originally posted by Henry_PymIt is up to you to prove he's too strong to be held. If you believe something is true the onus is on for you to prove it not for me to disprove your theory.
even then it would still be on you, you are saying it's able to hold a character as physically strong as Loki... I'm asking you why?