Obama to announce new executive action on guns

Originally posted by Surtur
I wonder..does he weep about all the people ISIS have killed with the guns he gave them?

How much does Reagan weep for directing the CIA to train and arm the Mujaheddin, including Osama bin Laden, to fight Soviets in Afghanistan, only for them to become al-Qaeda?

How much does W. Bush weep for destabilizing the region, leading al-Qaeda to splinter and form ISIS?

Apparently, it is okay for Republican presidents to create terrorist organizations to fight proxy wars, but it is an outrage when a Democratic president air drops munitions to an ally and it is intercepted by the enemy. Got it.

So there is this thing about an increase in gun stocks:

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-01-04/gun-stocks-soar-ahead-reported-gun-control-executive-action-tomorrow

Originally posted by Adam_PoE
How much does Reagan weep for directing the CIA to train and arm the Mujaheddin, including Osama bin Laden, to fight Soviets in Afghanistan, only for them to become al-Qaeda?

How much does W. Bush weep for destabilizing the region, leading al-Qaeda to splinter and form ISIS?

Apparently, it is okay for Republican presidents to create terrorist organizations to fight proxy wars, but it is an outrage when a Democratic president air drops munitions to an ally and it is intercepted by the enemy. Got it.

I don't see anywhere that I said it's okay for one side to do it but not the other. ISIS is a relevant current topic now and Obama is the one in office. Reagan is dead, but if he armed people who then used those same weapons to kill innocents then yes he should weep. People also criticize Bush all the time for various f*ck ups(or things they perceived that way). But again he is not the one in office right now and the topic literally has Obama's name in the title so...

Let's try to keep this thread specifically about the gun control legislation that he's announced. If you want to talk about one of Obama's perceived foreign policy blunders then I'm sure one of the many "Obama is the antichrist, the end is nigh" type threads littering the forum will do.

I would argue that at least his history of arming people would be relevant to a discussion about his attempts at gun control. I think past behavior involving firearms is important if he is going to take such a stance against it.

Then argue that. Your initial statement about arming ISIS didn't come off as a sincere attempt to engage in any meaningful discussion about the issue of gun control, but a strange and misguided attempt to show him as being hypocritical because he was upset at the memory of a bunch of young children being murdered in school.

The entire point of providing a link to the article was to provoke a discussion. I picked out a tiny portion of it to quote because yes I find it hypocritical. But hypocrisy involving guns still is relevant to the discussion.

Especially since I replied to someone quoting it back to me who brought up valid points about a potential hypocrisy of the situation in order to clarify what I meant.

But I think I get what you are saying and I should be taking my own advice about other subjects..in that I think no you don't have to necessarily be obnoxious or anything like that in order to get people to discuss a certain issue or pay attention to it. I should of gone about approaching the subject in a better manner that would make people actually care about what is being discussed.

That's fair enough. Feel free to continue the discussion just so long as it is still relevant to the topic of the thread. If, however, it starts to go down the road of lambasting Obama for foreign policy errors without having any relation to the topic, then the conversation will have to end or be moved to an appropriate thread.

Gun registration will not solve anything. Increased laws on purchasing wont either.

Gun violence sentences needs to be increased.

Any crime committed with a gun should have a 10 year sentence minimum added to whatever the crime was.

300 million guns in America.

320 million people in America

8,124 deaths per year involving guns.

90% of those death involve hardcore criminals.

Liberals want to take the guns away of 320 million people not only seems bizzare, but completely retarded.

You cant leave sentencing to local judges anymore. if you want to control gun violence on a national level.

As I mentioned above, anyone convicted of a gun related crime should get 10 years in prison on top of what they get for the crime.

I think Dubya said it best:
"For every fatal shooting, there were roughly three non-fatal shootings. And, folks, this is unacceptable in America. It's just unacceptable. And we're going to do something about it." --Philadelphia, Penn., May 14, 2001

😂

Gun makers love Obama

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/investing/gun-stocks-president-obama/

Originally posted by Star428
Regarding gun control, Trump destroys Clinton with one tweet:

http://americanactionnews.com/articles/trump-destroys-hillary-clinton-with-one-tweet

Someone needs to slap that b**** upside the ****ing head when she makes idiotic statements like this: "Guns don't keep people safe".

What a stupid ****ing b****.

You really are a nasty piece of shit.

Huh. You know, if Clinton gets elected, we're going to have Clinton Derangement Syndrome. I'm betting it will be even worse than the shit Obama's has to deal with.

Originally posted by Lucius
You really are a nasty piece of shit.

Huh. You know, if Clinton gets elected, we're going to have Clinton Derangement Syndrome. I'm betting it will be even worse than the shit Obama's has to deal with.

At least with Clinton the republicans will be on top of her really bad because they dont like her keeping her someone honest.

Obama somehow bent the republicans over at bath houses one to many times and they passed his bills and furthered his agenda.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
Gun makers love Obama

http://money.cnn.com/2016/01/05/investing/gun-stocks-president-obama/

Yep and gun sales have apparently doubled since he took office.

Before this there was an estimated 300 million guns in America.

I bet thee will be close to 400 million in the next year.

320 million American

300 million guns

9,200 deaths a year from guns.

Yea lets take them all away.

Pretty much sums it up in the first part.

YouTube video

You don't even what to know the percentage..but I'll tell you anyways..

0.000028125% of being killed by a gun in America.

And of those 9k deaths 90-95% of them are from hardcore criminals.

Originally posted by Star428
Regarding gun control, Trump destroys Clinton with one tweet:

http://americanactionnews.com/articles/trump-destroys-hillary-clinton-with-one-tweet

Someone needs to slap that b**** upside the ****ing head when she makes idiotic statements like this: "Guns don't keep people safe".

What a stupid ****ing b****.

Originally posted by Time-Immemorial
320 million American

300 million guns

9,200 deaths a year from guns.

Yea lets take them all away.

Has Obama actually proposed "take all guns away"?

President Obama’s 2015 Executive Actions on Gun Control: http://www.ncsl.org/research/civil-and-criminal-justice/summary-president-obama-gun-proposals.aspx

It seems mostly on more intensive background checks and licensing for sellers. Meaning you'll have to wait a bit longer for your gun.