Durability vs Durability

Originally posted by One-Punch
There's so many misconceptions here.

Lol, the helicopter Super-Doom threw was just a random helicopter that just happen to be there. It wasn't magic nor multiversal or whatever. Just a regular helicopter.

Super-Doomsday himself isn't a magic construct nor did he have 5D imp powers. He was a creature genetically created by Overcorp, which Vyndktvx summoned to attack Superman.

As far as durability goes, Superman was never hit by "abstract level" attacks lol. All the physical attacks on Superman were done by Vyndktvx's recruits and proxies e.g., groups of super villains like the Anti-Superman army and creatures like Super-Doom.

👆 I will have to read this for myself.

Abhi presented a convincing case with his scans. Galan has used them before, too, so it's not as if I am blindly trusting abhi when it regards Superman, lol.

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
We are discussing the durability feat because that is what the thread is about. It's a regular helicopter and it ****ed Superman up, end of story. He even says his caped saved him- FROM A HELICOPTER.

That has nothing to do with my post.

I was trying a hand at helping Carver understand the basis of the story, because he was confused, clearly outlined in the post I quoted, and several others I didn't. Instead of just saying "SERIOUSLY OMG Y U NO GET IT"

See, I quoted Carver, and tried to resolve his questions.

That's how you know what topic I was covering in my post.

You start on the first line and read left to right and descend to the next one and lather, rinse, repeat.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 I will have to read this for myself.

Abhi presented a convincing case with his scans. Galan has used them before, too, so it's not as if I am blindly trusting abhi when it regards Superman, lol.

However Clark did show some really good stuff during the whole encounter. Vyn is an imp after all.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
👆 I will have to read this for myself.

Abhi presented a convincing case with his scans. Galan has used them before, too, so it's not as if I am blindly trusting abhi when it regards Superman, lol.

What?? What was convincing about anything this guys says, seriously? You KNOW what he willing to do, you know he out and out lies about scans an occasionally it's a misinterpretation, but event then he stick blindly and stubbornly to his stance.. He actually had you thinking this was a special "multiverse copter?" 😂

Originally posted by Blue Area Vet
What?? What was convincing about anything this guys says, seriously? You KNOW what he willing to do, you know he out and out lies about scans an occasionally it's a misinterpretation, but event then he stick blindly and stubbornly to his stance.. He actually had you thinking this was a special "multiverse copter?" 😂

Lol the Multiverse copter was my own understanding, based on the information I saw.

Originally posted by celeyhyga17
Not to the extent Abhi is presenting. His version is beating Vyn in a straight up fight.

However Clark did show some really good stuff during the whole encounter. Vyn is an imp after all.

Right, so getting back to the topic, durability, he got incapacitated by the impact of a helicopter. The cape comment is almost unthinkable.

Depends on how powerful Super Doomsday was.

And Superman was still weakened, no?

Superman taking a beating from Superdoom after exposure to kryponite was pretty impressive.

But the same Superman was also nearly knocked out by 10 gigawatts of electricity lol.

But then, you know....Mexicans.....

Funny how no one ever posts the next page of those Mexican scans.

Ha I know I know, I was going to mention BP but that too had context.

Lol and it's funny that people keeps bringing that up when Surfer himself has been upgraded since then. The desperation. It's like me using Superman from DOS to rep Pre Superman who's grown in power after DOS.

They should post the next page. Surfer goes Donald Trump on those Mexicans. It's pretty funny.

I would love to see the next page.

Originally posted by DarkSaint85
Depends on how powerful Super Doomsday was.

And Superman was still weakened, no?

Weakened? No. Exerted? Sure. You really don't want to pimp that as an excuse. No amount of weakening could explain why that attack would have killed him.

As far as how physically powerful the monster was, that's not only irrelavant, there is no indication via the pic that the helicopter was thrown at anything but a conventional speed. Again, look at the debris. Would it have looked any different if Hulk had thrown it......or Spiderman? Is there any text or visual that indicates it was the speed of the throw that would have been lethal were it not for Supermans cape? You can't read things into the scene that simply aren't there. That's Abby all day long.

Here are the Mexican scans lol.

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And some bonus scans relating to this thread.

A meteor hits the core of a dead planet releasing enough energy to bathe a solar system. Surfer is right beside this planet, he tanks the energy release while summoning Galactus.
http://postimg.org/image/hlklz8o4v/

Surfer tanks a localized big bang.
http://postimg.org/image/5nj1lckdr/
http://postimg.org/image/6ojaah1db/
http://postimg.org/image/6ahyavh9r/

Surfer gets caught inside a reality warping cosmic storm created by a being who could "manipulate the building blocks of the galaxy" a being that was "bending the fabric of reality as easily as one might crush an egg shell." Surfer tanks it long enough to make telepathic contact.
http://postimg.org/image/jjvvaz60f/
http://postimg.org/image/jvdbnqmgf/
http://postimg.org/image/b2wd021bj/
http://postimg.org/image/oxuniivqn/
http://postimg.org/image/yky5s8oq7/

Surfer tanks an energy beam from the 6 infinity gems.
http://postimg.org/image/hj5bq59v3/

Surfer tanks a blast from Rune who had all the 6 infinity gems, and proceeds to beat him via blowing up his gem hand.
http://postimg.org/image/xt036s9wv/
http://postimg.org/image/yaqn8wa3z/
http://postimg.org/image/t5u150mjz/

Surfer's tanks an the Inciters exploding, which causes a massive explosion so powerful it was "felt across the universe."
http://postimg.org/image/vxdavml2n/
http://postimg.org/image/nzeag8ien/
http://postimg.org/image/lxdt1zkfj/
http://postimg.org/image/8kf9d44z3/

Originally posted by One-Punch

Surfer tanks an energy beam from the 6 infinity gems.
http://postimg.org/image/hj5bq59v3/

Then they all nearly die by falling into a black hole, until Galactus saves them.

Originally posted by One-Punch
Here are the Mexican scans lol.

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And some bonus scans relating to this thread.

A meteor hits the core of a dead planet releasing enough energy to bathe a solar system. Surfer is right beside this planet, he tanks the energy release while summoning Galactus.
http://postimg.org/image/hlklz8o4v/

Surfer tanks a localized big bang.
http://postimg.org/image/5nj1lckdr/
http://postimg.org/image/6ojaah1db/
http://postimg.org/image/6ahyavh9r/

Surfer gets caught inside a reality warping cosmic storm created by a being who could "manipulate the building blocks of the galaxy" a being that was "bending the fabric of reality as easily as one might crush an egg shell." Surfer tanks it long enough to make telepathic contact.
http://postimg.org/image/jjvvaz60f/
http://postimg.org/image/jvdbnqmgf/
http://postimg.org/image/b2wd021bj/
http://postimg.org/image/oxuniivqn/
http://postimg.org/image/yky5s8oq7/

Surfer tanks an energy beam from the 6 infinity gems.
http://postimg.org/image/hj5bq59v3/

Surfer tanks a blast from Rune who had all the 6 infinity gems, and proceeds to beat him via blowing up his gem hand.
http://postimg.org/image/xt036s9wv/
http://postimg.org/image/yaqn8wa3z/
http://postimg.org/image/t5u150mjz/

Surfer's tanks an the Inciters exploding, which causes a massive explosion so powerful it was "felt across the universe."
http://postimg.org/image/vxdavml2n/
http://postimg.org/image/nzeag8ien/
http://postimg.org/image/lxdt1zkfj/
http://postimg.org/image/8kf9d44z3/

Why do you hate America? 😕

Originally posted by Juntai
It bounces off of him because of his silver skin, lol. >.>
They had no idea what to do with the gems, which is why Thanos had to come along.

Then they all nearly die by falling into a black hole, until Galactus saves them.

He still tanked it though.

Originally posted by Juntai
It bounces off of him because of his silver skin, lol. >.>
They had no idea what to do with the gems, which is why Thanos had to come along.

Then they all nearly die by falling into a black hole, until Galactus saves them.

Later on Galactus actually sends Surfer into that very same black hole. Surfer passes through it and is unscathed.
http://s13.postimg.org/673h1vm7b/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_09.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/gjprnyfqf/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_10.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/mjdirm0iv/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_11.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/jru910207/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_12.jpg
http://s13.postimg.org/i1b7zikh3/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_13.jpg

^ This was the black hole that swallowed a solar system.

Nova was the one who thought it would crush them, but Surfer disagreed and said Galactus probably made them powerful enough to pass through it which turned out to be true.
http://s13.postimg.org/i1b7zikh3/Silver_Surfer_1988_015_13.jpg