Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
You mentioned NOTHING above Thanos taking shots from Magus with the IG. Not one thing. So you can pontificate all you want about how badass DD is, but the feats you mentioned are simply okay.You bring up DS as if DD beating him means something special. It doesn't I literally mentioned DS being one shot by a weakened, injured starving Galactus.. He was literally treated like a child. On the contrary, a well fed Galactus could barely break through Thanos shields, let alone get to him. DD beating DS, is nothing of consequence in the overall scheme of things.
You act like DD is some invulnerable dude who can't be put down and adapts to everything. Yet he could never adapt passed Superman's blunt force punches. They still hurt and affected him. So once you start listing his "uber" durability, you should keep that in mind.
You're talking about combat formidability, I'm talking about durability only. Sufer certainly has just as good durability as Superman, if not better. I could cite more times superman was treated like a feeb and KO'd than you could Surfer. Odin one shot that guy, that same Odin couldn't put Thanos down with shot after shot. If Odin couldn't, DD has zero chance to get the job done.
Why do you even think about comparing Superman to Thanos...they aren't even the same league. Thanos would shit all over Superman one v one and you know it. Sounds like you feel like Superman could beat Thanos in a BZ as confident as you sound. The reality is this, I have a little game we can play.... Since you want to go on and on about how strong superman is and how he goes outside his tier blah blah blah. How about we list the times Superman has been treated like a weak feeb and overpowered.. and you do the same for Thanos... Wanna know how that is going to turn out for you? Pretty damn ugly.
I can see the confusion you get, because he sometimes gets knocked around momentarily by a herald or trans level character. However, the characters who engage him are counting on his restraint, his fear of hurting innocents and causing egregious collateral damage and whatever plan they have concocted to allow them to gain the upper hand temporarily. Most of them have plotted long in advance of actually meeting him, because the DC heros and villains tend to know exactly the types of scenarios that will bring Superman to battle. Or they engage him entirely on their own while he's doing other things.
Even some of the mightiest beings on Earth such as Black Adam [though he started the encounter not on his own volition, he continued it by choice], who as we know as of WW3, is almost unstoppable in the absence of Superman [as 52 was marketed as the year without Superman] and has the physical attributes of many gods and relies on these things also. Notice Superman rushing around saving people while simultaneously fighting him, and as Superman gets stronger and stronger as Superman finds out how much he can handle -- again his restraint... then Adam backs down and Superman immediately stops -- he again relied on Superman's restraint.
This is exactly the type of story that frequents Superman's encounters. I can bring up 1000 more of you want.
But when Superman is not doing this, he's been shown to walk over trans, skyfathers and abstracts and whatnot rather easily.
Something Thanos has never shown in his whole career. Those types of characters are brackets above him.
A serious Superman runs over Thanos. That's your power difference. Superman has one shot guys in the trans tier, and railroaded skyfathers. Supes' weight class is above gods, just as characters in his rogues gallery like Mxy, Doomsday and Darkseid and Brainiac are, but he's benevolent, and restrains his power immensely.
Luckily on the forum, Superman isn't bound to holding back. He is his own catalyst to these massive ramps in power. And under the rules where he will use what traits he has to win, he would unleash a level Thanos simply can't contend with.
And Doomsday doesn't even have to do that. He doesn't hold back in that regard.
Superman has to cut loose just to try to keep up with him.
Thanos odds against Doomsday are not good. Like zero chance good.