KuRuPT Thanosi
Senior Member
Originally posted by Juntai
Nothing to counter really, you made no valid point or counter to anything I've posted... you only brought crying about Superman low showings to a conversation about Doomsday.. so if you have nothing to suggest why Thanos could ever hope to stop Doomsday heads up then run along.Superman was only being used as point of reference. Because guy said if he could then Thanos can. Wrong. Superman maxing out is way over Thanos, regardless of his low showings when holding his power down. He has the wins to support it. Superman stopped holding back and dumped everything in the final pages of that fight to put Doomsday down. He accomplished more than what a Guardian with universe level power could.
Incorrect, I listed facts that you couldn't counter.
You went on and on about DD durability, yet you couldn't match the durability showing I mentioned for Thanos. Since you couldn't, then I could run around claiming, I see nothing to suggest DD could hope to stop Thanos... just as you're trying to do with DD.
You go on and on about what DD has evolved past, yet fail to mention, he never evolved past basic blunt force trauma. If he can't evolve past something as basic as that, he's evolving isn't all it's cracked up to be.
Again, his low showings matter as well, not just his higher showings. That's the problem with superman fanboys, they seem to be under the impression that only high showings count. Which is completely false. ALL of his showings matter when judging his formidability and track record. It's scary that such a basic debating standard seems to allude you. As I correctly pointed out, EVEN WHEN he beats guys above his pay grade, he's already lost to them 1 or 2 times earlier in the story. You'd like to forget about that, and claim he's 1-0, which means it's clear to me that one of two things is going on here:
1. Either basic math alludes you
2. Or you're blatantly being disingenuous about his true record
Just because he wins at the end, doesn't mean we throw out his earlier fight when he was treated like a feeb and tossed around like a sack of potatoes. He's 1-1 or 1-2... not 1-0. No way no how.
You then failed to address the point that generally when he beats people above his pay grade, there is context to him doing so. He's not just overpowering them, he sometimes uses his head to trick them... sometimes they just simply forget their powers and get DC'd by DC's flagship character. That doesn't mean in a forum fight, when they aren't subject to PIS or CIS, that they wouldn't WTF pwn superman, they would. Which again, is the point I'm making, Superman often wins because he's supposed to win, not because he's more powerful.
You then were unable to counter the fact that superman has been treated like a feeb VASTLY more times than Thanos ever has. Yet, you're claiming he's clearly stronger, he's actually not, based on the above. If you get tossed around like a feeb routinely, while another guy rarely does, how on God's green earth would you call the person being feeb'd more stronger? That defies logic and common sense. If anything, that is proves he's weaker not stronger. Before you say it again, I've already crushed the Superman apologist theory of his holding back when this happen. This has to be EXPLICTLY stated in the comic in question in order for that to be true. When superman says "I'm pissed and going to put this guy down" , then proceeds to get treated like a child, you don't get to go... yeah he was still hodling back or not trying. Sorry, you're nothing to DC and have no authority what so ever there. Canon narration > Superman apologists making excuses for his losses.
I'll ask again, which is more impressive:
1. To rarely ever lose to flag ship characters, who like superman, sometimes go above their tier to beat guys.
2. To be the flagship character and get treated like a feeb sometimes and win other times.
To me, Thanos winning, and Marvel having him not lose to flag ship characters speaks volumes, much more, that somebody with the odds stacked in their favor (who has to win) winning. There is no comparison. You disagree?