Originally posted by KuRuPT Thanosi
So nothing of consequence then, again, for the third straight post. Eventually all the hyperbole and verbiage will run out buddy. These are the simple facts that you can't counter.You can cite all of the Superman beating this Trans tier, this skyfather and that God all you want. Yet fail to mention that in pretty much every single one of those showings you are alluding to... There is context to the situation.. he uses trickery instead outright overpowering them... it's PIS CIS. It's literally that simple. Which is why you need to look outside of the box with superman. There's context. He's the flagship character for DC, so of course he's going to win in the end. However, that doesn't change the shit stomping he received the first time they met. Just because you win the second time or Third time... doesn't mean the first shit stomping is erased. You're merely 1-1 or 1-2 vs. that guy. Superman isn't 1-0 just because he won the last fight. So pretty much every comic he wins in, he's usually lost the first go around. That's 1-1, not 1-0.
Further, and before I have to hear about him holding back. I could cite NUMEROUS times when he's been treated like a weak feeb...VASTLY more times than Thanos. Guess what, unless SPECIFICALLY mentioned that he was weakened or holding back... we don't assume he is. It has to be specifically stated. That is what I love about superman fans. On one hand, which happens regularly, Superman will go now I'm pissed and I'm going to put you down... SAYS he's not holding back and going to try and proceeds to get treated like a feeb. Yet superman fans will still go, oh see, but there he was still holding back.. even though the comic SPECIFICALLY says he's trying his best to put him down. Doesn't work that way canon narration > fanboyism and conjecture about Superman. It's really that simple
What's worse, Thanos, who isn't even a flagship character for Marvel, who should be subjected to PIS and CIS all time going against Marvel's flagship characters.. Still RARELY if ever losses to them, let alone gets treated like a feeb. THAT is how powerful he is. They could routinely have him lose to Thor.. or surfer or BRB or any number of people or bad guys that lose to them. Instead, he rarely if ever losses to them. Now THAT is a track record going against the odds. Superman on the other hand, has all the odds working for him and still gets routinely treated like a feeb. Now you tell me, which is more impressive?
All I see is a bunch of crying about how strong Superman is and why you think he's shouldn't be.
Thanos record against true skyfather+ type beings like Galactus and Odin is poor. Yes, he's durable, he survives long enough to prove a point. But he's never overpowered and bested one.
Doomsday has, and he does so easily.
I can see the confusion you get, because he sometimes gets knocked around momentarily by a herald or trans level character. However, the characters who engage him are counting on his restraint, his fear of hurting innocents and causing egregious collateral damage and whatever plan they have concocted to allow them to gain the upper hand temporarily. Most of them have plotted long in advance of actually meeting him, because the DC heros and villains tend to know exactly the types of scenarios that will bring Superman to battle. Or they engage him entirely on their own while he's doing other things.Even some of the mightiest beings on Earth such as Black Adam [though he started the encounter not on his own volition, he continued it by choice], who as we know as of WW3, is almost unstoppable in the absence of Superman [as 52 was marketed as the year without Superman] and has the physical attributes of many gods and relies on these things also. Notice Superman rushing around saving people while simultaneously fighting him, and as Superman gets stronger and stronger as Superman finds out how much he can handle -- again his restraint... then Adam backs down and Superman immediately stops -- he again relied on Superman's restraint.
This is exactly the type of story that frequents Superman's encounters. I can bring up 1000 more of you want.
But when Superman is not doing this, he's been shown to walk over trans, skyfathers and abstracts and whatnot rather easily.
Something Thanos has never shown in his whole career. Those types of characters are brackets above him.
A serious Superman runs over Thanos. That's your power difference. Superman has one shot guys in the trans tier, and railroaded skyfathers. Supes' weight class is above gods, just as characters in his rogues gallery like Mxy, Doomsday and Darkseid and Brainiac are, but he's benevolent, and restrains his power immensely.
Luckily on the forum, Superman isn't bound to holding back. He is his own catalyst to these massive ramps in power. And under the rules where he will use what traits he has to win, he would unleash a level Thanos simply can't contend with.
And Doomsday doesn't even have to do that. He doesn't hold back in that regard.
Superman has to cut loose just to try to keep up with him.
Thanos odds against Doomsday are not good. Like zero chance good.
Make an actual point or counter, and come up with proof of how Thanos will defeat a being that tramples skyfathers consistantly like Doomsday. Any proof relying on Superman is void, as Superman unleashing the height of his power does the same thing, and he can barely keep up with Doomday.
Stops at Doomsday.
Doomsday was tough enough to wreck skyfathers heads up.
A guardian described as powerful as the Power Battery attacked him and Doomsday walked right through it.. he had sweat pouring from him because of how much energy he was pumping out until he had spent his entire life force in the effort that tore a hole through reality, just to KO him.To give an idea of the power for point of reference, and weather it's hyperbole or not, the same style event happened to Superboy Prime, and he absorbed the energy released and it charged him with enough energy ravage the multiverse blowing up planets and casually killing Justice Leagues without effort, and made him more powerful than Monitors and able to fight evenly with and kill Monarch, who packed enough energy to wipe a universe.
Thanos chases trinkets wishing he were that tough.