Star Wars TFA vs TPM

Tempest is right that TPM has antagonists, but by the very nature of "The Phantom Menace" they lack presence. Sidious is kept in shadow and isn't allowed to show much of anything, Maul is a near-mute and the Trade Federation heads are a racist punchline.

Originally posted by The_Tempest
The notion that TPM "had no antagonists" is factually wrong. Whether or not you think they're up to snuff is another matter, but they were there.

Again, did anyone actually watch the movie before you were told not to like it?

Sorry, I meant to write "PROTAGONISTS."

But even the antagonists are rather absent. Yes, it's Sidious and the TF on strings. But since we never really get an idea what they're trying to achieve, what they're up to, they don't even make sense as antagonists.

It's basically 'much ado about something'.

Originally posted by Astner
Everyone was already comparing the movies, I just made the thread for it.

You did make a good thread, even if many posters consider it an outrage to compare the two movies.

Well, why? They're both MOVIES, they're both SW MOVIES. Why not compare them? We rank the movies, don't we? By doing so we compare them.

Originally posted by Astner
Obi-Wan vs Rey: Who did you prefer as the protagonist of the story and why?

Rey. Like others said, Obi-Wan wasn't much of a protagonist in TPM.

Originally posted by Astner
Jar-Jar Binks vs Finn: Who did you find more enjoyable?

Finn. Not fair to compare the two, Jar-Jar was pure comic relief, Finn was a mix.

Originally posted by Astner
Anakin (TPM) vs Poe: As far as piloting was concerned, which of these two characters did you prefer?

Poe, easily.

Originally posted by Astner
Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren: Who did you find more interesting and why? What about their new lightsaber designs, which did you prefer?

Darth Maul. The silent badass type really worked in TPM. I prefer the lightstaff, can't get used to the crossguard saber.

Originally posted by Astner
Qui-Gon Jinn vs Han Solo (TFA): Who's death had the greater impact?

Qui-Gon Jinn's. Much better scene, if you ask me.

Originally posted by Astner
Queen Amidala vs General Leia (TFA): Who seemed to have the greater impact on their respective story?

Someone made a good comparison, that Leia was more like Mon Mothma in TFA... so it's unfair to compare the two. Padme.

Originally posted by Astner
R2D2 (TPM) vs BB-8: Which droid did you prefer?

BB-8, hilarious.

Originally posted by Astner
Story vs Story: How do you compare the two, which did you prefer?

Even though TFA is like a remake of ANH, I enjoyed its story more.

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You did make a good thread, even if many posters consider it an outrage to compare the two movies.

Oh they certainly should be compared. Both brought back Star Wars to a new generation. Both were Huge events with merchandise sold everywhere. Both were extremely financially successful but received mixed reactions from fans receiving a lot of love and a lot of hate.

TFA is certainly not receiving "a lot of hate".

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
You did make a good thread, even if many posters consider it an outrage to compare the two movies.

Originally posted by ares834
TFA is certainly not receiving "a lot of hate".

Enough for Abrams to address it.

A common criticism=/=hate

Originally posted by ares834
A common criticism=/=hate

What? How does that follow from anything I’ve said? Abrams addressed the notion that TFA is too similar to ANH which most certainly is a common criticism of the film.

Originally posted by Nephthys
Tempest is right

👍

Too bad it was just a misspelling. I agree with queeq that the status of the protagonists was pretty nebulous and ill-conceived.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Enough for Abrams to address it.

Well, SW is always under the microscope.

This entire thread has lead up to this clip right here:

YouTube video

Originally posted by ares834
A common criticism=/=hate

Fair enough. Even I don't Hate it. Just have some major complaints about it. And I'm still really looking forward to Ep.8 & Ep.9.

I think a fairer comment would be many people had big "criticisms" or were "disappointed" by it. Whereas with TPM many people actually hated it.

Originally posted by queeq
Well, SW is always under the microscope.

True Say. Star Wars brings out extreme reactions one way or the other.

Originally posted by Darth Thor
Fair enough. Even I don't Hate it. Just have some major complaints about it. And I'm still really looking forward to Ep.8 & Ep.9.

I think a fairer comment would be many people had big "criticisms" or were "disappointed" by it. Whereas with TPM many people actually hated it.

True Say. Star Wars brings out extreme reactions one way or the other.

Part of the SW debating fun.