Star Wars TFA vs TPM

Started by StiltmanFTW9 pages
Originally posted by Darth Thor
True Say. Star Wars brings out extreme reactions one way or the other.

I can't say I hated prequels.

I loved the OT, too bad it's so short - there are some deleted scenes that really should've made it into the final product. Biggs, for example, had a great scene with Luke and a great one-shot comic.

I dunno... the acting in the scene with Luke and Biggs on Tatooine wasn't great.

The Force Awakens wins for all of those!

Originally posted by StiltmanFTW
I can't say I hated prequels.

I loved the OT, too bad it's so short - there are some deleted scenes that really should've made it into the final product. Biggs, for example, had a great scene with Luke and a great one-shot comic.

Rots is awesome.

Erm.. no, not really. 😉

Originally posted by queeq
Erm.. no, not really. 😉
Yes, really. Accept it.

No... Because it's not.

Originally posted by queeq
No... Because it's not.
Iyo not mine. It's like arguing which color is cooler. It's all subjective.

Except your opinion doesn't matter.

Originally posted by Lord Lucien
Except your opinion doesn't matter.
My opinion is the only thing that matters.

Re: Star Wars TFA vs TPM

Originally posted by Astner
Obi-Wan vs Rey: Who did you prefer as the protagonist of the story and why?

Ewan played a magnificent Obi-Wan; even if he wasn't developed much in TPM, he was still really cool. Daisy Ridley played her part well enough, and her character had a lot more development, but Rey isn't exactly a fresh or particularly interesting character; just a recycled female heroine role. Which is fine, but hardly a match for the iconic nostalgia that comes with a good Obi-Wan Kenobi portrayal.

Jar-Jar Binks vs Finn: Who did you find more enjoyable?

Finn, hands down. I see no point in even explaining; you'd have to be crazy to think otherwise. He's both more story-relevant and comedically relieving; fact. Like Jar Jar, though, he was a bit much at times.

Anakin (TPM) vs Poe: As far as piloting was concerned, which of these two characters did you prefer?

What? Poe's the man, man; Again, no need to even elaborate.

Darth Maul vs Kylo Ren: Who did you find more interesting and why? What about their new lightsaber designs, which did you prefer?

Both were pretty flat and uninspiring, but I liked both of their lightsaber designs and fighting styles. I'll give it to Kylo because he didn't die in the first film.

Qui-Gon Jinn vs Han Solo (TFA): Who's death had the greater impact?

Uh, Han, man. He's an iconic character who already has a trilogy of character development, and he got killed by his own son. Like, damn.

This is one fight Qui-Gon can't win by virtue of being Liam Neeson; because Han is Harrison Ford.

Queen Amidala vs General Leia (TFA): Who seemed to have the greater impact on their respective story?

Both were toast, but Portman is hot, going with her.

R2D2 (TPM) vs BB-8: Which droid did you prefer?

BB-8 really stole the show with TFA. Even though R2 is an iconic character, his appearance in TPM was lackluster; I'm sorry to say this is no competition.

Story vs Story: How do you compare the two, which did you prefer?

Neither were particularly good. TFA is a copy paste, and it gives off some cheap fanfilm vibes, but it's got heart and was a lot of fun. TPM at least brought some new things to the table, but it was badly executed and bland as toast. Pick your poison, I guess.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Iyo not mine. It's like arguing which color is cooler. It's all subjective.

Actually, I think I agreed extensively why the PT doesn't work well. It's not JUST taste or OPINION.

And NewGuy points out some key problems... AGAIN: NO character development in the PT... Or maybe I should say: no characters. Just cardboard figures that do stuff because the script requires them to.

^ NewGuy also said Ewan was "Magnificent" as Obi-Wan.

Of course it's Opinion. Your "breakdown" is just that. YOUR breakdown. I and others have broken down our "problems" with TFA. Doesn't make our issues "factual" problems.

I loved Obi-Wan, Yoda, Palpatine, Darth Maul and Count Dooku as characters in the Prequel Trilogy.

I also really enjoyed Anakin's story arc in ROTS and liked Padme as the Queen in TPM, but her love story dented the character as the trilogy went on IMO. If we were to include TCW then I love those 2 characters and the ones listed above much more so.

Originally posted by queeq
Actually, I think I agreed extensively why the PT doesn't work well. It's not JUST taste or OPINION.

And NewGuy points out some key problems... AGAIN: NO character development in the PT... Or maybe I should say: no characters. Just cardboard figures that do stuff because the script requires them to.

It is opinion based and DDM systematically broke you down. Just let it go. You hate the prequels. The funny part is the ot's weren't masterpieces either IMO. You have an opinion and the problem is you honestly believe you speak for others. You don't. Arguing over which color you like and being serious about it is weird.

None of the Star Wars movies are "master pieces" tbh. A lot of people just have the thickest of thick rosey colored nostalgia goggles when viewing the OT. IMO both the OT and PT had their merits, and downsides.

Originally posted by Khazra Reborn
None of the Star Wars movies are "master pieces" tbh. A lot of people just have the thickest of thick rosey colored nostalgia goggles when viewing the OT. IMO both the OT and PT had their merits, and downsides.
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I do really, really like rots but I agree that none were masterpieces and without flaws.

I dunno. ESB comes very close.

And can someone tell me what "arc" they think Anakin has in ROTS? How is he different at the end than at the beginning? He's angry man wanting more power at the beginning, and at the end he is still that. I say: NO ARC!

That he is angry at the beginning and angry at the end doesn’t mean he didn’t have an arc… Anakin had a huge arc over RotS, he is in a completely different place from the beginning of the film in regards to his character. I mean he is an entirely different character at the end. I don’t even know why this has to be said as it feels so damn obvious. Now whether this arc was believable and well executed is a different matter.

ESB is a god damn masterpiece though.

In what way is he different then? I don't see it. The only difference is that he has yellow eyes and is called Darth.

I keep saying this: adult Anakin is an angry, arrogant, self-serving, power-hungry murderer of men, women and children in AOTC. And he still is at the end of ROTS. What is the bloody character arc here? And place has nothing to do with it...

Beginning: His fate will be the same as ours.

End: If you're not with me then you're my enemy.

Ta-da.