Could Dooku have beaten Anakin?

Started by Kurk5 pages

Could Dooku have beaten Anakin?

If he wasn't holding back; why or why not? 馃槓

No, because he wasn't holding back. Like seriously, read the book.

No, Anakin stomped him.

Originally posted by quanchi112
No, Anakin stomped him.

Rey stomped Ren too 馃槃

and Maul got stomped by Sidious 馃槅

Maybe Dooku got stomped. But not as badly as these two 馃槀

Dooku got stomped worse and died.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Dooku got stomped worse and died.
See but Dooku actually handled him quite well up until he pissed Anakin off 馃檪

Good thread.

Originally posted by Kurk
Rey stomped Ren too 馃槃

and Maul got stomped by Sidious 馃槅

Maybe Dooku got stomped. But not as badly as these two 馃槀

Ren's training isn't complete.

Sidious was above Maul at that point but I'm of the opinion he can get better.

False.

Originally posted by Kurk
See but Dooku actually handled him quite well up until he pissed Anakin off 馃檪
Nah.

According to the novel, Sidious had told Dooku to hold back, because he wanted to use Anakin to murder Obi-Wan. (Which also partly explains Dooku's shocked face when Sidious tells Anakin to kill Dooku. While he might have expected a Sith master to stand back and let the strongest man win, he would not have expected his master to change the plan on him in that way.)

Also, Sidious was there and he was watching. He was also quite capable of using the Force in whatever small ways he wanted to if it would influence the outcome by either helping Anakin or by hindering Dooku.

Also stated in the book, Dooku's pride got in his way. Anakin and Obi Wan's opening stances were from different "styles" than they proceeded to fight in. Dooku was put on an unbalanced defensive by preparing for their fighting style based on these opening stances, and then not fighting as he expected them to.
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I'd just like to establish that, while I don't think I ever clarified in the past, I don't like you. ^

Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'd just like to establish that, while I don't think I ever clarified in the past, I don't like you. ^
Originally posted by DarthAnt66
I'd just like to establish that, while I don't think I ever clarified in the past, I don't like you. ^

Ooooooooohhhhhh. I'd stop right now Kurk.

Despite rarely ever talking to Nuisance, I can't help but feel he nurses himself to sleep every night muttering my name.

Originally posted by Kurk
According to the novel, Sidious had told Dooku to hold back, because he wanted to use Anakin to murder Obi-Wan. (Which also partly explains Dooku's shocked face when Sidious tells Anakin to kill Dooku. While he might have expected a Sith master to stand back and let the strongest man win, he would not have expected his master to change the plan on him in that way.)

Also, Sidious was there and he was watching. He was also quite capable of using the Force in whatever small ways he wanted to if it would influence the outcome by either helping Anakin or by hindering Dooku.

Also stated in the book, Dooku's pride got in his way. Anakin and Obi Wan's opening stances were from different "styles" than they proceeded to fight in. Dooku was put on an unbalanced defensive by preparing for their fighting style based on these opening stances, and then not fighting as he expected them to.
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Anakin destroys.

Originally posted by Kurk
According to the novel, Sidious had told Dooku to hold back, because he wanted to use Anakin to murder Obi-Wan. (Which also partly explains Dooku's shocked face when Sidious tells Anakin to kill Dooku. While he might have expected a Sith master to stand back and let the strongest man win, he would not have expected his master to change the plan on him in that way.)

Also, Sidious was there and he was watching. He was also quite capable of using the Force in whatever small ways he wanted to if it would influence the outcome by either helping Anakin or by hindering Dooku.

Also stated in the book, Dooku's pride got in his way. Anakin and Obi Wan's opening stances were from different "styles" than they proceeded to fight in. Dooku was put on an unbalanced defensive by preparing for their fighting style based on these opening stances, and then not fighting as he expected them to.
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Half that shit can't be canon with TCW existing.

If you read the novelization in context, you'll find that the one-on-one battle between Anakin and Dooku wasn't really that close at all. Anakin straight-up overwhelmed Dooku... Then killed him.

Furthermore, it wasn't implied that Dooku was holding back at all. To the contrary, he was more 'force-amped' than we'd ever seen him before. Ergo the following narrative:

"[Dooku] called upon the Force, gathering it to himself and wrapping himself within it. He breathed it in and held it whirling inside his heart, clenching down upon it until he could feel the spin of the galaxy around him. Until he became the axis of the Universe. This was the real power of the dark side, the power he had suspected even as a boy, had sought through his long life until Darth Sidious had shown him that it had been his all along. The dark side didn't bring him to the center of the universe. It made him the center. He drew power into his innermost being until the Force itself existed only to serve his will."

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I get Kurk's point though. Before Skywalker tapped into his full power, Dooku while Stomping Kenobi had Skywalker lying on his ass completely helpless for like 10seconds.

After that it completely changed. But there was that.

That was already after he stopped holding back, so no, it really isn't that great a point.

Originally posted by FreshestSlice
That was already after he stopped holding back,

After Skywalker stopped holding back? But he lashed out with a stronger fury after Kenobi went down. And that's when Dooku could no longer handle him.