I think so. Overall, Anakin might have more raw power but Dooku is at least as skilled and much more refined in using the Force in combat.
The ease at which Dooku took out Kenobi and their various fights in the Clone Wars lead me to the conclusion that either ROTS Anakin was amped or that it was a show with instructions given by Sidious.
An all-out Dooku with no reason to hold back simply has more impressive showings. Fending off both the duos of Ventress/Opress, Anakin/Kenobi multiple times, trashing Bulq/Vos, Ventress/Nightsisters after being poisoned, and casually humbling OCW Grievous.
I think the ROTS fight was more due to circumstance. It's a. Case of Dooku being a better combatant but Anakin being tailor made to combat him. Where Dooku I'd a sorcerer, Anakin is a tank. Where Dooku is an old man, Anakin has him impossibly outmatched physically being able to fight for longer. The longer the fight continues, the stronger he will get.
I'd bet on Dooku if their were no crazy outside circumstances effecting the match but Anak in would give him hell. Tyranus 6/10.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
I think so. Overall, Anakin might have more raw power but Dooku is at least as skilled and much more refined in using the Force in combat.The ease at which Dooku took out Kenobi and their various fights in the Clone Wars lead me to the conclusion that either ROTS Anakin was amped or that it was a show with instructions given by Sidious.
An all-out Dooku with no reason to hold back simply has more impressive showings. Fending off both the duos of Ventress/Opress, Anakin/Kenobi multiple times, trashing Bulq/Vos, Ventress/Nightsisters after being poisoned, and casually humbling OCW Grievous.
I think the ROTS fight was more due to circumstance. It's a. Case of Dooku being a better combatant but Anakin being tailor made to combat him. Where Dooku I'd a sorcerer, Anakin is a tank. Where Dooku is an old man, Anakin has him impossibly outmatched physically being able to fight for longer. The longer the fight continues, the stronger he will get.
I'd bet on Dooku if their were no crazy outside circumstances effecting the match but Anak in would give him hell. Tyranus 6/10.
Well said.
Originally posted by Darth Thor
You mean in his mastery over Tk. Skywalker was more powerful in the Force though, which is why he beat him.
Was Anakin hindered in his force powers during his fight with Obi Wan? If not than Dooku was still the more skilled with the force. However Aankin had more raw power and would have been Dooku's superior, but at that point I don't think so.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
Lulz. There was literally nothing intelligent or supported said there. It was a bunch of opinions that ironically ignored circumstances that allowed Anakin to surpass Dooku.
Kinda of is with fights from TCW, and the fact Dooku doesn't have as much raw power but has more knowledge and practice and actual combative skill with it up to this point as seen how he has in fact ragdolled kenobi while Anakin only stalemated him however not sure if Anakin was hindered in force powers at that point to actaully make a 100% judgement call. However he's there are circumstances in that fight, and once he tapped into the dark side he was better but until then Dooku was like equal with the blade and if he would have used his force powers could have won.
You should kind of stop talking. Anakin being the best Form V master he's ever seen, combined with being vastly more powerful than when he was already beginning to outmatch Dooku, with circumstances were he was not holding back at all, and the fact that it has been something like half a year since the last fight and two since most of them, makes continuing to post a very stupid idea. I mean at least Stark or DP post evidence. Your opinion on a matter that contradicts the very basis of that opinion is just retarded.
Originally posted by Darth Martin
I think so. Overall, Anakin might have more raw power but Dooku is at least as skilled and much more refined in using the Force in combat.The ease at which Dooku took out Kenobi and their various fights in the Clone Wars lead me to the conclusion that either ROTS Anakin was amped or that it was a show with instructions given by Sidious.
An all-out Dooku with no reason to hold back simply has more impressive showings. Fending off both the duos of Ventress/Opress, Anakin/Kenobi multiple times, trashing Bulq/Vos, Ventress/Nightsisters after being poisoned, and casually humbling OCW Grievous.
I think the ROTS fight was more due to circumstance. It's a. Case of Dooku being a better combatant but Anakin being tailor made to combat him. Where Dooku I'd a sorcerer, Anakin is a tank. Where Dooku is an old man, Anakin has him impossibly outmatched physically being able to fight for longer. The longer the fight continues, the stronger he will get.
I'd bet on Dooku if their were no crazy outside circumstances effecting the match but Anak in would give him hell. Tyranus 6/10.
Originally posted by FreshestSlice
"It's obviously not canon if I don't like it." - Stark 2016I like how the script doesn't match ether but it's okay because it supports you.
As I clearly stated the book contradicts TCWs and ROTS. Dooku would obviously know Skywalker was a Djem So user and Kenobi was a Soresu user.
The script matches WAY better than the book and serves as insight into the Director's intent...since you know the director WROTE the script. The only contradictions are one line of dialogue (which was cut) and the fact that Dooku loses one hand instead of two. Which frankly is simply because things change in productions, that screenplay, however was written by the same man who directed the move. The book however takes extensive liberties and at many times contradicts the established canon, ESPECIALLY when it comes to the duels.
Its more along the lines of which source has more credibility the one from the creator's pen or an interpretation of the creator's pen. The answer is the creator's pen everytime.
That book is a walking contradiction with most of the novel's duels and is utterly unreliable in that regard:
The Dooku duel- Already covered
Sidious vs. Windu- Anakin walks in at a completely different time, not to mention the Jedi masters are defeated in a much different manner that clearly contradicts the film.
Sidious vs. Yoda- Film depicts them as relative equals with the Screenplay even having Yoda disarm him. Book depicts him as utterly outmatched.
Sorry bro, but no the Book isn't a reliable source when it comes to duels. The screenplay is far more reliable, particularly because its from the hands of Lucas himself.
True the script is more reliable as per Lucas's vision and as per post TCW Canon. That said as per the latest Canon, Freshest is right that ROTS Skywalker had grown vastly more powerful since the Anakin/Dooku S4 fights.
So more likely it was Anakin who was holding back in ROTS before Kenobi got taken out (which aligns with the novel).
Well, Dooku had the upper hand against Anakin and Obi-Wan, and after he subdued Obi-Wan with the Force, he provoked Anakin to tap into his anger. Since that moment, he was unable to beat Anakin. But he could do that before, intead of provoking him.
But - according to the ROTS novel, which I'm using as alternate scenario/"what if?" - if Dooku would not do that, then Palpatine would. So in that scenario, Count Dooku couldn't beat Anakin
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