Originally posted by snowdragonI'm more blak than she is, looks like I win. 👆
Yeah this is what Stacey Dash thinks about all of this:Her heritage means her opinion>>>most opinions in this thread in regards to the topic!
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Originally posted by snowdragonI'm more blak than she is, looks like I win. 👆
Yeah this is what Stacey Dash thinks about all of this:Her heritage means her opinion>>>most opinions in this thread in regards to the topic!
🙂
Originally posted by Surtur
You ever hear of an epically terrible movie called "The Room"? You realize if we went with your suggestion then technically upon it's release that movie would of had just as much a shot at "best picture" as..whatever movie actually won that year.See if you'd seen "The Room" you'd know why such a thing would be a travesty.
Yep there is always a risk that an absolutely terrible movie could win best picture, but I doubt it would ever happen and even if it did win most people would care for about 5 minutes. I only propose such an idea so situations like this don't happen
Originally posted by Surtur
So they don't give academy awards to like..foreign films or anything? Or is it only foreign english speaking films? Since they definitely nominate actors from outside this country.
Roberto Begnini won Best Actor for Life is Beautiful and it was beaten to best movie by Shakespeare in Love in an absolutely horrendous decision.
Originally posted by snowdragon
Yeah this is what Stacey Dash thinks about all of this:Her heritage means her opinion>>>most opinions in this thread in regards to the topic!
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Everyone's calling her an idiot right now because she thinks Black History Month "fosters segregation."
Originally posted by Surtur
She is calling for an end to segregated awards. Which makes a kind of sense if you're going to see people complaining about racism at an awards show why would you have a "blacks only" award show?Segregation is either good or bad. Her opinion doesn't matter more, but holy hell it's about time a person of color stood up and said this shit, because if she was white she'd be called racist within a nanosecond.
How often have you heard that racial and ethnic minorities are, unfairly, free to do just the opposite, subjecting white Americans to a kind of ceaseless, in-your-face reverse bigotry and themselves to a type of elected segregation each day? How many times have you heard someone say that the very existence and name of the NAACP (National Association for the Advancement of Colored People) and any number of historically black colleges, universities and organizations represent a modern-day kind of racism which is bizarrely accepted because the people who benefit or are at the helm are not white? Finally, how many times have you heard someone say some version of this: "Where is/why can't we have a 'White History Month?'"This is harsh, but it must be said. We don't believe that anyone allowed to use the stove alone is actually that obtuse. This is only the kind of thing that a person can say after first deciding to willfully ignore or embrace half-truths and falsehoods concocted to distract or even displace the well-documented reasons that black organizations and institutions exist. And, you also have to be willing to ignore what they do and who they serve now. Further, to believe that white history, white contributions to the arts or anything else are ever neglected, rejected or omitted wholesale in any setting in the United States requires all of the same.
Originally posted by Omega Visionare you more apt to give money to a homeless man sleeping next to a donation can or a pushy one who tells you you could give him more?
So instead they're just calling her an idiot. Which she is. She didn't just stop at awards. She basically doesn't believe there's any legitimacy to any kind of activity or organization focused on black people. This is harmful because it feeds into the erroneous presumption that our society is fundamentally equal and thus there's no need for groups like the NAACP. These things are necessary because our society still isn't racially equal.
Originally posted by Omega Vision
So instead they're just calling her an idiot. Which she is. She didn't just stop at awards. She basically doesn't believe there's any legitimacy to any kind of activity or organization focused on black people. This is harmful because it feeds into the erroneous presumption that our society is fundamentally equal and thus there's no need for groups like the NAACP. These things are necessary because our society still isn't racially equal.
Oh she's definitely crazy no doubts there. But then even a broken crazy clock is still right twice a day.
Which hey I get it, shit isn't equal so it's needed. But you can't have it both ways. If more blacks began to get nominations, they would start cancelling these blacks only award shows, right?
Also just to me if I was upset and thinking "well shit blacks aren't getting the nom's they should, we need diversity" I would not then go "that equates to a blacks only awards show". Why not try to show them how to do an awards show correctly, if you think they are failing?
You see the go to excuse will always be "it's unfair to them so they need a specific award show" but the catch there is those types of shows just foster the exact opposite of the process of thought these guys apparently want people to have. Do diversity right if you're going to complain over it, is this a fair thing to say? Otherwise you might as well say "when all else fails fight racism with racism".
But see even saying that..you will get people who will say "it's not racist, it'd be racist for a whites only award show because no racism, but since blacks experience racism in the country its not racist for them to do it". Which of course just kinda fosters and "us" and "them" mentality to me. One set of rules for one set of people, another set of rules for another. Which no, nobody ever wins in such a scenario, it doesn't foster equality or diversity. You don't try to fight a lack of diversity with a lack of diversity. Or do you think we should?
Though she honestly reminds me of how people whined at Raven Simone when she said she isn't african american just american.
I can understand the criticism of some blacks of black history month too. I think it was Morgan Freeman who said nope it's not black history, it's AMERICAN history. In both of those instances? People jumped on them saying they are embarrassed of being black even though that isn't what they said.
We live in a time where any black person saying anything critical of the black race automatically becomes an "Uncle Tom". I can almost guarantee you if you went to look at the comments to the youtube video I posted you'd see people calling that lady a coon or a female Uncle Tom or something.
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10816010/academy-award-voters-diversity-plan-2020-oscars
Sounds like some good changes to me, keeping the voting more in line with the times.
Originally posted by Bardock42
http://www.theverge.com/2016/1/22/10816010/academy-award-voters-diversity-plan-2020-oscarsSounds like some good changes to me, keeping the voting more in line with the times.
Just out of curiosity, do you think an organization like the NBA is racist?
As to your article, I do hope "double the number of diverse members" means that and not merely "double the number of black people". But anyways you did say it was 94% white people, correct? So forgive me but..how would doubling the number of non-whites come ANYWHERE near closing that huge huge gap?
It comes off like they are trying to shut people up and get them to stop complaining, but they aren't really changing the balance of power. Also wait this apparently isn't just about race, apparently women are just not represented and nominated enough as well. So it's doubling the number of women AND diverse? So are woman included in that diversity thing or is the double the amount of women separate from double the amount of people who are not white? So when they double women are whites allowed for that increase?
Also wait guys we don't want to forget anyone. We covered blacks and the other non-white races that apparently also exist. We covered females. So what about doubling the number of gays and lesbians on the academy? Try to toss a few transgender people in there too, we don't want to forget anyone, right? Toss in an albino too.
Sometimes in the past kids have been nominated for academy awards, right? So there is that too, kids aren't repped enough either. So we need some kids, but it can't be only whitey's though.