Originally posted by Rao Kal ElFime. 😉
"Fime Pr, I am leaving, I'll let you with your dying board 🙁 " 😂You ignore canon showings of Superman to troll around
Superman clears it
No, I do not ignore canon showings. You just pretend Owaw and a few other superman showings are his norm and ignore the rest. Magic hurts him. The avengers get a magical amp as well. Give it up. You lost. Just say Fime and leave it be.
Originally posted by quanchi112
Fime. 😉No, I do not ignore canon showings. You just pretend Owaw and a few other superman showings are his norm and ignore the rest. Magic hurts him. The avengers get a magical amp as well. Give it up. You lost. Just say Fime and leave it be.
It says "fine" dum dum
No, you only focus on low showings and ignore Superman's history. I bet you I have read many more comics of Superman than you, so your input in based on ignorance 🙂
Superman clears it, you punk out to Pr, you punk out ALWAYS, and Delta handed you your ass at Herochat 😂
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElYou edited, greaseball.
It says "fine" dum dumNo, you only focus on low showings and ignore Superman's history. I bet you I have read many more comics of Superman than you, so your input in based on ignorance 🙂
Superman clears it, you punk out to Pr, you punk out ALWAYS, and Delta handed you your ass at Herochat 😂
I gave you multiple examples and his storied weakness to magic. You ignored it.
Quit taking this so personally. Superman does more than clutch his throat like when a holding back WW had to calm down the submissive male, Kal.
Originally posted by quanchi112
You edited, greaseball.I gave you multiple examples and his storied weakness to magic. You ignored it.
Quit taking this so personally. Superman does more than clutch his throat like when a holding back WW had to calm down the submissive male, Kal.
Hahahahaha you are choking 😂
Again I have read more Superman comics than you, so I know better.
Superman clears it, stop trolling.
Why did Pr bullied you? 😆
Hahahahahaha! "I'm leaving"
Originally posted by Rao Kal ElNo, you don't read them from an objective fan but more so from a fanboys perspective.
Hahahahaha you are choking 😂Again I have read more Superman comics than you, so I know better.
Superman clears it, stop trolling.
Why did Pr bullied you? 😆
Hahahahahaha! "I'm leaving"
Quit focusing on ad hominem attacks due to your own ineptitude. Superman is weaker to magic and would struggle against Thor alone. If you throw in Loki, the avengers and magical amps he gets crushed. That is also not taking into account Ares axe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
No, you don't read them from an objective fan but more so from a fanboys perspective.Quit focusing on ad hominem attacks due to your own ineptitude. Superman is weaker to magic and would struggle against Thor alone. If you throw in Loki, the avengers and magical amps he gets crushed. That is also not taking into account Ares axe.
Originally posted by quanchi112
He is scared. He's another poster who posts every couple of months. Call all your superman fan friends since you obviously can't rebut my points.
Calm down wee wee boy.
Superman clears it. Canon history dictates that he will survive the magic 🙂
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Calm down wee wee boy.Superman clears it. Canon history dictates that he will survive the magic 🙂
Canon history dictates that the magic wrecks Superman easily and honestly the big amount of heroes in Siege is sufficient to destroy Clark without using the norn stone or any magic trick.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
Canon history dictates that the magic wrecks Superman easily and honestly the big amount of heroes in Siege is sufficient to destroy Clark without using the norn stone or any magic trick.
Nope, I already cited a few examples of Superman overcoming magic or performing really well against it despite his so called "weakness"
You can go back, read and look for those examples there is more, but I don't feel like spoon feeding scans , specially to trolls like Quan.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Nope, I already cited a few examples of Superman overcoming magic or performing really well against it despite his so called "weakness"You can go back, read and look for those examples there is more, but I don't feel like spoon feeding scans , specially to trolls like Quan.
There is plenty of exemple of post-crisis Superman being wrecked by magic...
I guess that we are talking about the New 52 Superman here and there is only exemples of him being wrecked by magic that I previously quoted.
That's a weakness.
I don't read at quan claims.
He is in my ignore list.
Originally posted by RealityWarper
There is plenty of exemple of post-crisis Superman being wrecked by magic...I guess that we are talking about the New 52 Superman here and there is only exemples of him being wrecked by magic that I previously quoted.
That's a weakness.
I don't read at quan claims.
He is in my ignore list.
There is two scenarios
1 is OWAW Superman
2 NU52
Originally posted by RealityWarper
1) What are Superman's feats with the sunbathing amp ? (I will read this particular storyline asap)2) About the New 52 Superman i'm keeping with the same opinion that he get wrecked.
He doesnt need to sunbathe IMO to clear this. Just how he one shooted wrecked the imperex probes on par with Doomsday is enough to clear it.
Sundipped will be an overkill
I don't follow 52 enough so I can't comment on that.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
He doesnt need to sunbathe IMO to clear this. Just how he one shooted wrecked the imperex probes on par with Doomsday is enough to clear it.Sundipped will be an overkill
I don't follow 52 enough so I can't comment on that.
What I know about Imperiex probes is that they are very durable and hit hard but besides that I don't see it can be an argument for Superman to beat a large crowd of heroes, especially when they can amp themselves with the Norn stones.
I guess that an hit & run tactic to isolate the heroes and stomp them one by one is his better chance and thanks to the amp maybe he can do the job.
The New 52 has high physical attributes but isn't a great fighter. Overall the combat speed of the powerhouses in comics is similar to the one of their fellow comrades. The combat speed is mostly a manga stuff when you look at mangas like FOTNS, Yu Yu Hakusho, DBZ or Battle Angel Alita Last Order (especially the fight between Zekka and Sechs). (and yeah I like to speak about the combat speed ^^)
Originally posted by RealityWarper
What I know about Imperiex probes is that they are very durable and hit hard but besides that I don't see it can be an argument for Superman to beat a large crowd of heroes, especially when they can amp themselves with the Norn stones.I guess that an hit & run tactic to isolate the heroes and stomp them one by one is his better chance and thanks to the amp maybe he can do the job.
The New 52 has high physical attributes but isn't a great fighter. Overall the combat speed of the powerhouses in comics is similar to the one of their fellow comrades. The combat speed is mostly a manga stuff when you look at mangas like FOTNS, Yu Yu Hakusho, DBZ or Battle Angel Alita Last Order (especially the fight between Zekka and Sechs). (and yeah I like to speak about the combat speed ^^)
Most probes were portrayed as team wreckers and the ones defeated by individuals included amps, extenuating circumstances or trans level characters to defeat them.
Just imagine a character that can defeat a team like the JLA composed of Martian manhunter, Flash, GL Kyle, and Plastic Man then imagine that Superman gts into a mental state where he actually starts one shooting characters at that power level. That is OWAW Superman.
I will have to read 52 Superman but so far it hasn't caught my attention, the JLA run was OK but the Morrison run was a let down for me, so I lost interest it.
Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Most probes were portrayed as team wreckers and the ones defeated by individuals included amps, extenuating circumstances or trans level characters to defeat them.Just imagine a character that can defeat a team like the JLA composed of Martian manhunter, Flash, GL Kyle, and Plastic Man then imagine that Superman gts into a mental state where he actually starts one shooting characters at that power level. That is OWAW Superman.
I will have to read 52 Superman but so far it hasn't caught my attention, the JLA run was OK but the Morrison run was a let down for me, so I lost interest it.
Post-crisis :
I see what you mean but isn't Martian Manhunter the only real threat to Superman in the JLA ?
I don't remember Flash, GL Kyle and Plastic Man being so dangerous for him.
Flash and Plastic Man lacks the durability and punching power to beat him.
GL Kyle has a nice tool but he can be countered if Superman put his hand on the GL ring and win a contest of willpower of he go in CQC with Kyle and hit him.
Basically I mean that I think that the Imperiex Probes are at Superman-level (that sounds similar to Silver Surfer being on par with Gladiator to me).