Superman:SIEGE

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Post-crisis :

I see what you mean but isn't Martian Manhunter the only real threat to Superman in the JLA ?

I don't remember Flash, GL Kyle and Plastic Man being so dangerous for him.

Flash and Plastic Man lacks the durability and punching power to beat him.

GL Kyle has a nice tool but he can be countered if Superman put his hand on the GL ring and win a contest of willpower of he go in CQC with Kyle and hit him.

Basically I mean that I think that the Imperiex Probes are at Superman-level (that sounds similar to Silver Surfer being on par with Gladiator to me).

Just be quiet.

Originally posted by SquallX
Just be quiet.

There is some "special sales" with the "ignore" function.

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Post-crisis :

I see what you mean but isn't Martian Manhunter the only real threat to Superman in the JLA ?

I don't remember Flash, GL Kyle and Plastic Man being so dangerous for him.

Flash and Plastic Man lacks the durability and punching power to beat him.

GL Kyle has a nice tool but he can be countered if Superman put his hand on the GL ring and win a contest of willpower of he go in CQC with Kyle and hit him.

Basically I mean that I think that the Imperiex Probes are at Superman-level (that sounds similar to Silver Surfer being on par with Gladiator to me).

Flash is a well stablished High herald, Kyle was actually able to create planets on the same arc and he was on his ION transition. Plas wasn't probably to much at the time.

But you are talking that this probe took down 3 of the big 7 of the jla (batman wasn't there because it was a space fight) and the only 2 left standing were Aquaman and a fully geared Wonder Woman and both were saved by Superman.

There is also the Probes that defeated the Titans and the outsiders.

Even if you were right on your assessment of probes being only High Herald the fact that Superman one shoot them in this particular state on mind speaks volumes.

I don't know if you have read the arc, but is like one of those must read Superman arcs.

Originally posted by quanchi112
Nothing substantiated by any precedent set in comics. Therefore siege wins.

Everything I've stated is supported by CANON!

Your lack of intelligence and reading comprehension does nothing to negate that.

The probes were trans, and Superman beat the shit out of them when he cut loose.

Their showings would makek any high herald blush.

Owen annihilates Superman with a thought...

Only thing is, Supes wont be reconstructing as Sentry could...

Originally posted by RealityWarper
There is some "special sales" with the "ignore" function.

Ironic right?

Maybe you should learn about the character first before you start spitting all that crap.

Originally posted by TheLordofMurder
Owen annihilates Superman with a thought...

Only thing is, Supes wont be reconstructing as Sentry could...

Siege started in Dark Avengers #13, Owen did not appeared on Siege

Plus Sentry explodes as easy as a balloon, Superman's hide is more durable.

In any case that low confidence Owen did not appear on Siege.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Flash is a well stablished High herald, Kyle was actually able to create planets on the same arc and he was on his ION transition. Plas wasn't probably to much at the time.

But you are talking that this probe took down 3 of the big 7 of the jla (batman wasn't there because it was a space fight) and the only 2 left standing were Aquaman and a fully geared Wonder Woman and both were saved by Superman.

There is also the Probes that defeated the Titans and the outsiders.

Even if you were right on your assessment of probes being only High Herald the fact that Superman one shoot them in this particular state on mind speaks volumes.

I don't know if you have read the arc, but is like one of those must read Superman arcs.

I will read it.

I always forge my opinion this way. 🙂

Originally posted by SquallX
Ironic right?

Maybe you should learn about the character first before you start spitting all that crap.

I'm not ironic at all.

I was reading comic books before your parents made you a project in their lives so you probably should learn about the characters before questioning my knowledge.

By the way you are one more worthy for my ignore list.

Beautiful fonction.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Siege started in Dark Avengers #13, Owen did not appeared on Siege

Plus Sentry explodes as easy as a balloon, Superman's hide is more durable.

In any case that low confidence Owen did not appear on Siege.

"Sentry explodes as easy as a balloon" ????

Where does that comes from exactly ?

I think that there is a lot of context missing behind that claim.

Do you mind to share what you are speaking about exactly ?

Originally posted by RealityWarper
"Sentry explodes as easy as a balloon" ????

Where does that comes from exactly ?

I think that there is a lot of context missing behind that claim.

Do you mind to share what you are speaking about exactly ?

Is a figure of speech. What I meant is that compared to Superman's hide in Dark Avengers Sentry's skin gets pierced relatively easy compared to Superman and honestly it seems as if Superman's body is more durable.

It's not though.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
Is a figure of speech. What I meant is that compared to Superman's hide in Dark Avengers Sentry's skin gets pierced relatively easy compared to Superman and honestly it seems as if Superman's body is more durable.

You are refering to Ares pierced Sentry's body with his axe I guess.

Sentry's durability tend to vary greatly according to his mental state... Or his mood like when he toyed with Wasp & Thor and lowered it on purpose.

EDIT :

I just remembered that Ares' axe is made in adamantine, the Olympian metal whom inspired the adamantium.

That was death seed sentry

Originally posted by Sin I AM
That was death seed sentry

Same character & power-set.

Different personality (if you know how the Death Seed works).

Originally posted by RealityWarper
Same character & power-set.

Different personality (if you know how the Death Seed works).

Actually no not really

Originally posted by carver9
It's not though.

It is imo

Originally posted by RealityWarper
You are refering to Ares pierced Sentry's body with his axe I guess.

Sentry's durability tend to vary greatly according to his mental state... Or his mood like when he toyed with Wasp & Thor and lowered it on purpose.

EDIT :

I just remembered that Ares' axe is made in adamantine, the Olympian metal whom inspired the adamantium.

I am referring to the whole run of Dark avengers.

Superman can easily withstand the sun's corona while Sentry's skin was getting destroyed, Superman IIRC has not been destroyed by alien lasers like lindy destroyed Sentry's face. Even Byrne Superman a less powerful version of OWAW was able to survive the Sun's corona IIRC. This is a more powerful version of Superman.

Seems like we often forget that there are grades of invulnerability. Character A being "invulnerable" does not means he is as "invulnerable" as character B

Originally posted by Sin I AM
Actually no not really

Actually yes.

The Death Seed just unlocked Robert's mind and changed his persona.

Originally posted by Rao Kal El
It is imo

I am referring to the whole run of Dark avengers.

Superman can easily withstand the sun's corona while Sentry's skin was getting destroyed, Superman IIRC has not been destroyed by alien lasers like lindy destroyed Sentry's face. Even Byrne Superman a less powerful version of OWAW was able to survive the Sun's corona IIRC. This is a more powerful version of Superman.

Seems like we often forget that there are grades of invulnerability. Character A being "invulnerable" does not means he is as "invulnerable" as character B

Talking about Sentry's skin (if you're talking about the same occasion). His skin was only burning because he was trying to kill himself. Although in the end he didn't want it enough and he healed back up.

And Lindy shot him and granted he was lying on the floor. But he again got up straight away (or rather the Void did).